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  • Mr Wiggins
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    From "The Damage Trump Has Done"...

    The United States survived President Trump’s first year in Washington. But the damage already done to democratic institutions at home and to our vital alliances abroad will surely linger long after the 45th president leaves the Oval Office. Trump has, in one year, laid waste to America’s diplomatic legacy, set in motion the destruction of the Republican Party and called into question constitutional safeguards that have served us well for two centuries.

    Trump clearly believes a supposedly booming economy vindicates all. But this week, Forbes magazine ran a comparison of Trump’s and President Barack Obama’s economic records, which showed just how exaggerated the White House claims are that a Trump-inspired economic renaissance has swept across the United States. That Trumpian claim is so fake, it doesn’t hold water even on Wall Street.

    To hear the president crow about the recent surge of the stock market, one might think the bull run of 2017 was greater during his first year than any other. But Forbes noted that stock prices grew at a faster pace during the Great Depression. Even Obama’s first year in office was more bullish, with the broad S&P 500 Index exploding by 23.5 percent compared with last year’s 19.4 percent clip.

    The markets aren’t the only place where the petulant president falls short. The number of jobs created under Trump was lower in 2017 than during each of his predecessor’s final six years in office. Wage growth also declined after Trump became president. In fact, of the few areas where this president produced higher numbers than his predecessor, most were dubious achievements. The 2017 deficit under Trump climbed to $666 billion, up from $585 billion in 2016. The national debt crossed the $20 trillion threshold and is projected to rise faster in the future. And America’s trade deficit, which candidate Trump famously blamed on poor presidential dealmaking, was worse during Trump’s first year than in any of Obama’s eight. Like most of Trump’s braggadocious pronouncements, his claims clash with reality.

    The president’s foreign policy pronouncements seem just as dangerously detached from the real world. The United States is less safe, less secure and less respected than it has been in decades.

    America’s standing across the globe has been diminished by isolationism and angry tweets. Trump sullied the “special relationship” between the United States and Britain by blasting both the British prime minister and mayor of London after a terrorist attack. Trump insulted the prime minister of Australia, despite that country having stood by the United States during wartime for a century. The president also attacked Germany, our most steadfast ally in continental Europe, leading Chancellor Angela Merkel to tell her countrymen that they can no longer depend on the United States. Trump insulted France’s young leader by expressing support for his right-wing opponent and withdrawing — contrary to U.S. interests — from the Paris climate accords. And then came Trump’s piece de resistance for this tragic first year — a shocking slur against people from Haiti, El Salvador and countries in Africa.

    All this ally-bashing was matched by Trump’s elevating the status of dictators and racist organizations....

    Trump’s embrace of tyrants, coupled with his contempt for democratically elected allies, has sent the United States’ standing across the world to record lows. But the most damning legacy of Trump’s first year is simply that he has ruled as an unrepentant racist who provided comfort to white supremacists after Charlottesville, attacked black athletes to score cheap political points and fought furiously to close America’s doors to anyone who doesn’t think, look or pray like his most avid supporters.

    The damage done by that cruel legacy will be lasting....






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  • Jim in Merced CA
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    Sh**hole

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  • Figment56
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  • Figment56
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    I think the Hall of Presidents Trump speech should include such comments as, "I'm a very stable genious", perhaps "the smartest there is" and America has become great even though we let people from "___hole" countries in. The problem with what he says in HoP is that it sounds completely unlike Trump, you know, umm, Presidential. He never sounds Presidential. Unfortunately, Trump is truly a reflection of how certain Americans think. SAD.

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  • HiddenMickey87
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    Evidence is building that he's in worse mental condition than we think.


    Trump’s New York Times Interview Is a Portrait of a Man in Cognitive Decline

    On Thursday, El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago sat down with Michael Schmidt of The New York Times for what apparently was an open-ended, one-on-one interview....

    In my view, the interview is a clinical study of a man in severe cognitive decline, if not the early stages of outright dementia....

    In this interview, the President is only intermittently coherent. He talks in semi-sentences and is always groping for something that sounds familiar, even if it makes no sense whatsoever and even if it blatantly contradicts something he said two minutes earlier. To my ears, anyway, this is more than the President’s well-known allergy to the truth. This is a classic coping mechanism employed when language skills are coming apart.

    For example, a discussion on healthcare goes completely off the rails when the President suddenly recalls that there is a widely held opinion that he knows very little about the issues confronting the nation. So we get this:

    "But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody. Better than the greatest C.P.A. I know the details of health care better than most, better than most. And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected."

    This is more than simple grandiosity. This is someone fighting something happening to him that he is losing the capacity to understand. So is this:

    "We’re going to win another four years for a lot of reasons, most importantly because our country is starting to do well again and we’re being respected again. But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. So they basically have to let me win. And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, 'Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.' O.K."

    ...So, no, I don’t particularly care whether Michael Schmidt was tough enough, or asked enough follow-up questions. I care about this:

    "I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions. We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain. The chain is the last guy that killed. … [Talking with guests.] … The last guy that killed the eight people. … [Inaudible.] … So badly wounded people. … Twenty-two people came in through chain migration. Chain migration and the lottery system. They have a lottery in these countries. They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out. ‘Oh, these are the people the United States.' … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that. On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me."

    We’ve got bigger problems.

    There is lots of footage of Hillary coughing and stumbling her way through the campaign trail for months. (Not to mention that after she lost she went home and got tanked on wine -- her words.) But CNN branded Trump supporters as "conspiracy theorists" or "fake news" when they questioned her physical health.

    Brian Stelter called it "reckless speculation."

    But the author of that new book (who uses fake quotes and admits that he's not certain the content is true), diagnoses Trump as mentally ill, and now Brian Stelter says (on air!) that it's important that journalists treat it with credibility. "Americans are worried... It is fair to ask about [the president's] fitness."

    I repeat...

    "...reckless speculation."

    "It is fair to ask about [the president's] fitness."

    Also crazy:

    -Three men beating up a homeless black Trump supporter in Hollywood.
    -"Screaming at the sky" days.
    -Obsessing over ketchup on steak, two scoops of ice cream, and how he holds a water bottle.
    -Alternate reality websites in which Hillary won the election
    -Rioting in the streets after election results
    -Shooting up a baseball field of Republican politicians
    -Burning up college campuses
    -Kathy Griffith holding up a mock severed head.

    Etc.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Today the Liar in Chief again took credit for the economy, Tweeting:

    "In new Quinnipiac Poll, 66% of people feel the economy is "Excellent or Good." That is the highest number ever recorded by this poll."

    He conveniently ignored some other numbers from the poll:

    Who is more responsible for the economy?

    Trump: 40%
    Obama: 49%

    Views of President Trump

    69% Not level-headed
    65% Doesn't share their values
    63% Dishonest
    57% Not fit to serve

    Number of people who approve/disapprove of Trump

    36% Approve
    59% Disapprove






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  • laferney Road kid
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    Yep....even Donald Trump does not even know that Thanksgiving is a rotating holiday, all those extra days of retail shopping....because you know what is really insane is that folk state that they don't celebrate Christmas until after Thanksgiving, a holiday which has no traditional date.....but sure makes for a less crowded Disneyland day from all the insanity with all those extra visiting days and shopping days.....hence a retailer dream in 2017 with all those extra days.....someone has to take credit for all the profit.

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  • Eagleman
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    I read the New's
    Donald Trump ,sure like taking credit for many things.......even for Merry Christmas ?

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  • laferney Road kid
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    Jelly bellys....so what kind of candy does he like on his oval desk......anyhow.....it makes watching CBS fun in the morning.....the segment this morning.."Button, Button....who has the button?"....and who thought football season was almost over?!!!!!!

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Trump's policies being responsible for the stock market boom is another of his self-aggrandizing fantasies that has been swallowed by his fans.


    Business Insider: Trump just took credit for stock-market records once again — so we graded his claims

    ...Look no further than the chart above to get an idea of when investors lost faith in Trump's proposed policies. Returns for the most highly taxed companies, infrastructure stocks, and financial firms either leveled off or dropped sharply, hurt by a lack of progress and worries stemming from a healthcare-bill defeat.

    Yet the S&P 500 rally raged on, undeterred by the policy failings in Washington. A big part of this can be attributed to the FANG group, made up of Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, and Google. If you expanded that to include other tech stocks like Apple and Microsoft, which were similarly unstoppable during the period, the collection represented the mega-cap backbone that allowed the market to continue its historic climb.

    Also helping push stock indexes into the rarefied air was profit expansion. Mentioned in the section above as a minor positive catalyst, earnings growth exploded for the first- and second-quarter reporting periods, which largely occurred in April and July. The S&P 500 saw profit growth of 14% during the first three months of the year and 11% for the second quarter, its best stretch since 2011.

    Long story short, the market had a lot going for it during the period — and none of it was built on Trump policy.



    Can President Trump Really Take Credit for a Good Economy?

    The evidence doesn't back him up.

    Since becoming president, Donald Trump has made several claims that appear to take credit for improvements to the American economy, as well as gains in the stock market....

    The truth is, President Trump is enjoying a strong American economy right now, but there's little evidence that the good times are a result of his policies. Before he took office, unemployment was already falling, job growth was already on the rise, and a bull market was already in full swing.

    Trump would be right to brag about the jobs American businesses create and the wealth they generate for their investors, but he shouldn't be taking credit himself.



    Trump Continues To Take Credit For The Economy Built By President Obama

    Trump used to say the job numbers were "fake." The only thing that's fake is his continual taking credit for things that were achieved by President Obama....


    Twitter Scorches Fox News and Trump for Taking Credit for Obama's Economy

    It's no coincidence that Donald Trump and Fox News have been bragging about the performance of the stock market. It's an easy, albeit deceitful, distraction from the other bad news of the day. Never mind that stocks are currently in the second longest bull market in history and that it started in 2009 under President Obama. Trump has done literally nothing that would change the momentum of Obama's economy. Not a single economic bill has reached his desk for signature. But that hasn't stopped him and his propaganda division at Fox News from trying to steal the credit...

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  • Walt Fan
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    Well for the past year my stocks are doing quite well. I have been impressed with a lot of what he has accomplished this past year.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by PanTheMan View Post
    So... How crazy is this guy?
    Evidence is building that he's in worse mental condition than we think.


    Trump’s New York Times Interview Is a Portrait of a Man in Cognitive Decline

    On Thursday, El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago sat down with Michael Schmidt of The New York Times for what apparently was an open-ended, one-on-one interview....

    In my view, the interview is a clinical study of a man in severe cognitive decline, if not the early stages of outright dementia....

    In this interview, the President is only intermittently coherent. He talks in semi-sentences and is always groping for something that sounds familiar, even if it makes no sense whatsoever and even if it blatantly contradicts something he said two minutes earlier. To my ears, anyway, this is more than the President’s well-known allergy to the truth. This is a classic coping mechanism employed when language skills are coming apart.

    For example, a discussion on healthcare goes completely off the rails when the President suddenly recalls that there is a widely held opinion that he knows very little about the issues confronting the nation. So we get this:

    "But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody. Better than the greatest C.P.A. I know the details of health care better than most, better than most. And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected."

    This is more than simple grandiosity. This is someone fighting something happening to him that he is losing the capacity to understand. So is this:

    "We’re going to win another four years for a lot of reasons, most importantly because our country is starting to do well again and we’re being respected again. But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. So they basically have to let me win. And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, 'Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.' O.K."

    ...So, no, I don’t particularly care whether Michael Schmidt was tough enough, or asked enough follow-up questions. I care about this:

    "I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions. We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain. The chain is the last guy that killed. … [Talking with guests.] … The last guy that killed the eight people. … [Inaudible.] … So badly wounded people. … Twenty-two people came in through chain migration. Chain migration and the lottery system. They have a lottery in these countries. They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out. ‘Oh, these are the people the United States.' … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that. On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me."

    We’ve got bigger problems.


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  • Mr Wiggins
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    To the topic of the thread -- Trump's mental imbalance:

    ...Among his many unhinged utterances on Tuesday, prompted by who-knows-what (Did someone tell him the Russia investigation isn’t close to being finished?), President Trump decried the “deep state” — a common alt-right boogeyman positing that the government is plotting to dethrone its mad king.

    Calling his own Justice Department the “Deep State Justice Dept.” and urging it to go after Hillary Clinton, her aide Huma Abedin and former FBI director James B. Comey surely would have been the looniest and most outrageous of the day — if not for his my-nuclear-button-is-bigger-than-your-nuclear-button outburst.


    Fortunately, there was a strong push-back. Unfortunately, Republicans didn’t raise a peep. That was left to former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., who told CNN’s Jake Tapper: “I think it’s reprehensible to use that phraseology. I guess who that refers to is the career civil servants who are patriots dedicated to the country.” He continued, “I’d point out that when you take the oath of office as a civil servant you swear to uphold the Constitution. It doesn’t say anything about pledging loyalty to this president or any other and if not doing so is what constitutes being part of the ‘deep state,’ I think that represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what this country’s all about and what this government is all about and I find that characterization disturbing.” It is also reminiscent of Trump’s pressuring Comey to give him a pledge of loyalty and his meltdown over Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

    Clapper also chastised Trump for threatening political enemies. “The whole issue of a president, this one or any other, reaching out or pointing the finger at someone who ought to go to jail or be investigated is again beyond the pale,” Clapper concluded. “It’s not proper.”

    ...And Republicans remain silent, making a mockery of their own oaths of office. Their cardinal sin — pretending that Trump is emotionally, intellectually and temperamentally fit to govern and could be used for their own partisan ends — is belied by Trump’s daily utterances, whether they are an attack on the institutional norms that block his acquisition of unlimited power or the reckless threat of nuclear confrontation with North Korea.

    Having made that fatal error, Republicans double down each day as they ignore the assaults on our democracy and the threats to our security. For that, their only path to redemption is to force his quick exit from office, something they surely will not do.



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  • Whipland
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    Trump fans are full of faux facts about Obamacare.

    The Five Biggest Lies About Obamacare

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    Despite its continued unpopularity, the Affordable Care Act has been a success, and conservative predictions of ‘death spirals’ and huge premium spikes just haven’t come true....

    The preponderance of the evidence so far is that the apocalyptic predictions just aren’t coming true at all. Granted, there’s a lot of other news going on lately, but this is the real reason why Obamacare has kind of dropped out of the news cycle: Republicans aren’t bashing it quite so much anymore, because even they see it’s kind of working....




    President Trump has made 1,950 false or misleading claims over 347 days

    With just 18 days before President Trump completes his first year as president, he is now on track to exceed 2,000 false or misleading claims, according to our database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president....

    One of these claims was some variation of the statement that the Affordable Care Act is dying and “essentially dead.” The Congressional Budget Office has said that the Obamacare exchanges, despite well-documented issues, are not imploding and are expected to remain stable for the foreseeable future. Indeed, healthy enrollment for the coming year has surprised health-care experts. Trump used to say this a lot, but he’s quieted down since his efforts to repeal the law flopped.

    Trump also repeatedly takes credit for events or business decisions that happened before he took the oath of office — or had even been elected. Sixty-one times, he has touted that he secured business investments and job announcements that had been previously announced and could easily be found with a Google search....


    LOL Wigguns!!!

    I can defeat all of that with just this one Obama quote on Obamacare:

    "If you like your doctor you'll be able to keep your doctor."

    Hahaha--- how funny was that lie?

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by Whipland View Post
    The reality is that Obamacare is in a death spiral which will further only decline now that the new tax reform legislation do longer applies a penalty to anyone who doesn't sign up of ObumerCare.

    The very cynical thing about Obumercare is he and his democrat friends knew it would fail at some point AFTER his administration was over (which it is currently) and then the next administration (hopefully meant to be Billary) would then move the country to full socialist single payer healthcare. Add to that burden with states like Califiornia already with 1/3 of our residents on MediCal (medicare) and also now encouraging and signing up non documented immigrants on MediCal; single payer going forward would be the only way to save this mess.

    MOST Americans do not want socialized medicine of that sort. The kind where the level of care with doctors and hospitals is on a 3rd world scale of quality.
    Trump fans are full of faux facts about Obamacare.

    The Five Biggest Lies About Obamacare

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    Despite its continued unpopularity, the Affordable Care Act has been a success, and conservative predictions of ‘death spirals’ and huge premium spikes just haven’t come true....

    The preponderance of the evidence so far is that the apocalyptic predictions just aren’t coming true at all. Granted, there’s a lot of other news going on lately, but this is the real reason why Obamacare has kind of dropped out of the news cycle: Republicans aren’t bashing it quite so much anymore, because even they see it’s kind of working....




    President Trump has made 1,950 false or misleading claims over 347 days

    With just 18 days before President Trump completes his first year as president, he is now on track to exceed 2,000 false or misleading claims, according to our database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president....

    One of these claims was some variation of the statement that the Affordable Care Act is dying and “essentially dead.” The Congressional Budget Office has said that the Obamacare exchanges, despite well-documented issues, are not imploding and are expected to remain stable for the foreseeable future. Indeed, healthy enrollment for the coming year has surprised health-care experts. Trump used to say this a lot, but he’s quieted down since his efforts to repeal the law flopped.

    Trump also repeatedly takes credit for events or business decisions that happened before he took the oath of office — or had even been elected. Sixty-one times, he has touted that he secured business investments and job announcements that had been previously announced and could easily be found with a Google search....



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  • Whipland
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    "Obamacare is wildly unpopular" is another fantasy of Trump fans.

    The reality:

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    Yes, Obamacare is more popular than President Trump

    A victory lap for Obamacare at the ballot box
    The reality is that Obamacare is in a death spiral which will further only decline now that the new tax reform legislation do longer applies a penalty to anyone who doesn't sign up of ObumerCare.

    The very cynical thing about Obumercare is he and his democrat friends knew it would fail at some point AFTER his administration was over (which it is currently) and then the next administration (hopefully meant to be Billary) would then move the country to full socialist single payer healthcare. Add to that burden with states like Califiornia already with 1/3 of our residents on MediCal (medicare) and also now encouraging and signing up non documented immigrants on MediCal; single payer going forward would be the only way to save this mess.

    MOST Americans do not want socialized medicine of that sort. The kind where the level of care with doctors and hospitals is on a 3rd world scale of quality.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by Whipland View Post
    Don't forget that Obamacare is wildly unpopular too and is still the law.
    "Obamacare is wildly unpopular" is another fantasy of Trump fans.

    The reality:

    Poll: Americans overwhelmingly like Obamacare more than Trumpcare

    Obamacare's popularity has gone through the roof after Trump's election

    Poll: ObamaCare more popular than House GOP healthcare bill

    After repeal scare, Obamacare has never been more popular

    Obamacare is only getting more popular under Donald Trump

    The rise of Obamacare: Why is the ACA so popular?

    Republicans' Obamacare repeal was never really that popular

    GOP health care plan: Poll shows only 12% of Americans support it

    8.8 million sign up for Obamacare in strong showing

    Yes, Obamacare is more popular than President Trump

    A victory lap for Obamacare at the ballot box

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  • Whipland
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts, Trumpists...


    Remember, much of what Trump does can be undone

    ...For all the talk about how Trump was a different, more populist kind of Republican, the tax law he signed is cartoonish proof that the GOP is slavishly devoted to the interests of the rich. And despite the tax "reform" label, House Speaker Paul Ryan's crowning achievement does not simplify the tax code; it makes the tax code more complex. It was so hastily drafted and contains so many new giveaways to the wealthy that tax attorneys will be among the biggest winners. It's a huge gift to people who least need relief in a time of increasing inequality. One of the most telling features of the bill is that the modest breaks for the middle class are set to expire in less than a decade, while the corporate cuts are permanent.

    As a result, the bill is remarkably unpopular, with surveys suggesting that it is opposed by more than half of the population and supported by only a third. Indeed, since the advent of modern polling, the only major legislative initiative that was less popular with the public was the Republican proposal to repeal the Affordable Care Act....

    Don't forget that Obamacare is wildly unpopular too and is still the law.

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts, Trumpists...


    Remember, much of what Trump does can be undone

    ...For all the talk about how Trump was a different, more populist kind of Republican, the tax law he signed is cartoonish proof that the GOP is slavishly devoted to the interests of the rich. And despite the tax "reform" label, House Speaker Paul Ryan's crowning achievement does not simplify the tax code; it makes the tax code more complex. It was so hastily drafted and contains so many new giveaways to the wealthy that tax attorneys will be among the biggest winners. It's a huge gift to people who least need relief in a time of increasing inequality. One of the most telling features of the bill is that the modest breaks for the middle class are set to expire in less than a decade, while the corporate cuts are permanent.

    As a result, the bill is remarkably unpopular, with surveys suggesting that it is opposed by more than half of the population and supported by only a third. Indeed, since the advent of modern polling, the only major legislative initiative that was less popular with the public was the Republican proposal to repeal the Affordable Care Act....


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  • Whipland
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    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post


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    First off this cartoon strip smacks of race baiting so to that I will not comment. However, nearly 50% of Americans PAY NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES anyway, and many of those in turn still get a refund in the form of the ridiculous "earned income credit"-- a scam where non payers get money from payers. If you don't make enough to pay taxes, you shouldn't be getting a refund in the mail.

    So when some green eyed jealous monster bemoans how much wealthy people pay in taxes consider that the top ONE PERCENT in this country pay nearly 40% of all Federal taxes already.

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