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    Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

    Right, because I believe you have to remove the SIM card and put it into your new phone. If he left it in, he left all his info too.

    But I might be wrong.

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    • #3
      Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

      Originally posted by claribella View Post
      Right, because I believe you have to remove the SIM card and put it into your new phone. If he left it in, he left all his info too.

      But I might be wrong.

      Nope, has nothing to do with the SIM card. Some things can be saved on a SIM card, but all cell phones nowadays have internal memory for stuff like emails, text messages, ringtones, pictures...etc.

      It's this memory that is the hardest to erase completely because of the type of memory that it is.

      Manufacturers need to include some kind of program or utility built into the phone that will completely wipe any personal information from the phones. Hard resets will usually work, but most people don't hard reset their phones before giving them away or selling them.
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      • #4
        Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

        Originally posted by Demigod View Post
        Nope, has nothing to do with the SIM card. Some things can be saved on a SIM card, but all cell phones nowadays have internal memory for stuff like emails, text messages, ringtones, pictures...etc.

        It's this memory that is the hardest to erase completely because of the type of memory that it is.

        Manufacturers need to include some kind of program or utility built into the phone that will completely wipe any personal information from the phones. Hard resets will usually work, but most people don't hard reset their phones before giving them away or selling them.
        Well ew! Now I'm afraid to text message on my phone...ugh. I just know that when I bought a new phone, the sales guy took out my SIM card from my old phone and put it in the new one.

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        • #5
          Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

          Thats good to know now but it should be the companys responsbilty to add this to there warning label or owners manual as an FYI. Not many people think about this before they give there phone away.
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          • #6
            Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

            Originally posted by claribella View Post
            Well ew! Now I'm afraid to text message on my phone...ugh. I just know that when I bought a new phone, the sales guy took out my SIM card from my old phone and put it in the new one.
            Most SIM cards are only used for phone information so it can access the network, and storing phone numbers/contact information.

            Everything else is pretty much stored on the phone's internal memory, or in some cases on memory cards inserted into the phone.
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            • #7
              Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

              Originally posted by Demigod View Post
              Everything else is pretty much stored on the phone's internal memory, or in some cases on memory cards inserted into the phone.
              which double confirms my ew....

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              • #8
                Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                Ok then question. If I delete an IM, then it goes into the phones memory...I can then retrieve it again? How does one delete permanently?

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                • #9
                  Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                  Originally posted by claribella View Post
                  Ok then question. If I delete an IM, then it goes into the phones memory...I can then retrieve it again? How does one delete permanently?
                  Well, technically the only way to erase something like that permanently is to have the memory wiped, or hard reset the phone. Problem is that you can't just do it to one IM or TM - it's an all or nothing proposition.

                  Unfortunately, the way the phone and it's memory works doesn't allow you to retrieve any deleted messages. You can do it with special software and a data cable - maybe - but not from the phone itself.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                    Hmm..which is why I'm not selling my phone one Ebay when I get the Chocolate.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                      Originally posted by claribella View Post
                      Hmm..which is why I'm not selling my phone one Ebay when I get the Chocolate.
                      Chances are good your standard phone user doesn't care about what was on the phone and doesn't know how to get the info that might be on it...just wants the phone.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                        Originally posted by Demigod View Post
                        Chances are good your standard phone user doesn't care about what was on the phone and doesn't know how to get the info that might be on it...just wants the phone.

                        I'm sure..but no chances.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                          Somewhat off topic...

                          Isn't it true that anyone with a halfway decent scanner and knowledge of frequencies can listen in on not only cell phone conversations, but cordless phone conversations in their immediate neighborhood, because they're using essentially radio waves...

                          I know that back in the 90's, when they were still mostly carphones...I had a friend who was a "scanner freak" and was quite the eavesdropper...

                          Lesson here...unless you are on an old-fashioned land line phone, think twice about what you say.

                          --Barry
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                          • #14
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                            hmm... good thing i usually get rid of my phones through the recicling plan t-mobile has...

                            i know how to soft reset the phones... and medium reset the phones...

                            (Sidekicks dont have hard.. only mediaum which is same thing, but half the stuff is moved onto sim..)

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                            • #15
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                              By now, anything electronic should be highly researched before tossing or selling. Especially if you're sending a lot of personal info around...

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                              • #16
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                                i never bother selling my used electronic devices at ebay thats all.
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                                • #17
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                                  To erase everything you can do a hard reset and/or restore to factory settings. The sim card will basically only carry phone contacts (if they are saved onto the sim card) and text messages. It will also carry over the voicemail indicator. The problem is that people will not worry about the stuff they have on their old phone (i.e. emails, pictures, etc.). I work for Cingular and you won't believe what people have on their phones. You can't clone phones anymore but you used to be able to with the weaker RF's. The phones memory is just like your computer, even if something is deleted, you can still retrieve it, but only with the proper software. Oh and if you have a bluetooth phone, unless you are using a headset, make sure you have the bluetooth off, they can be hacked, look at Paris Hilton.
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                                  • #18
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                                    The ONLY way to be absolutely, positively sure your cellphone's memory is erased:


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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                                      Which is why I keep all of my old cell phones..

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Phones spill secrets of previous users

                                        Originally posted by EagleWings View Post
                                        Which is why I keep all of my old cell phones..
                                        Me too. Theres a nice collection going on in my house.
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