Ohio School Shooting

[stinkerbell]

CLEVELAND - A gunman opened fire in a downtown high school Wednesday before killing himself, and five people were taken to a hospital, authorities said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071010/...TGLQkFZnSs0NUE

Those poor kids--how scary!

[LLEBREKNIT]

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That is so very terrible my goodness.

Very sad and scary. Poor kids is right.

[knittingknerd]

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Yikes... I graduated the year Colombine happened and someone in my creative writing knew one of the shooters, so these things rattle me. I wonder if there's anything we can do to help the kids or the teachers from the school.

[aimster]

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The shooter was only 14. WTF was going on in his mind?

[SCUBAbe]

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The shooter was only 14. WTF was going on in his mind?

at 14....anything. 14 was one of the worst times in my life. I was very depressed and hated everything.

I would say look to his parents and home life.

[aimster]

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I barely remember my life at 14. That was a long time ago.

[sunnygirl]

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That's so scary.

[QuietViolet]

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... You just never know with these things.. My dad was born and raised in Colorado and went to school with the father of Eric Harris (one of the Columbine shooters)... they still kept in contact and my dad would go out with his dad for a beer everytime we were in town. I had met the family a few times, but never got to know Eric... just played with him a couple times as kids.. :/:/.. it scares me to think what would have happened if I had been raised there and grown up with him.. (though there was an age difference)...

[knittingknerd]

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14 years old.... everyone is messed up then. No one looks back and thinks "dude I was a cool kid at 14."

I feel bad for the community.

[Jazzman]

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I seriously want to know where in the hell fourteen year olds get guns? Is the average parent really so careless that they leave guns sitting out on the counter for the kid to grab when he decides to go crazy? When I was a kid my Dad kept the hunting rifles locked up in a gun safe that only he knew the combo to. If I had gone psycho there's no way I could have gotten into that thing.

Honestly, how is this happening so much? I am not at all an anti-gun advocate, but still. Fourteen year olds?

[DLandFansAZ]

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It's so scary and I just don't understand it. When I was a kid (I'm in my late 30's now, graduated in 87) I remember not liking people and wishing they were gone (not necessarly dead.) When did the whole school shooting thing cross the line? I would have never of thought of killing anyone or taking revenge in this way. Flattening tires, sure, TP their house, alright, shoot them in the head, I don't think so.

[Brain Toad]

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14 is a pretty crappy age, especially if you are "different" and especially after Colombine. I remember being very angry and negative at that age. But I just don't understand the jump to being angry and negative to wanting to kill your fellow classmates. There must've been something going on at home. The kid obviously had a lot of underlying issues.

[garbear]

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SCARY!
How could someone even just go threw shooting at people like that?
In April at my sisters school (Now mine to.) This kid was handing out these red tickets to people who were friendly to him and all, I guess he didn't have many friends. Turns out he planned some big thing to try and blow the school up, and shoot people before and he said as long as you have a red ticket I won't shoot you. It was in the paper. It was CRAZY! Then when the cops came they couldn't even find the kid turns out he was in support room. (*In school detention*)



http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...NEWS/704210361

There is a link on the story.

[pixie chick]

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Just terrible.

Even though we weren't immune to fights/stabbings/gun issues, I never feared for my life at my high school. It's awful that kids have to deal with this while trying to get an education.

[knittingknerd]

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Oh my goodness! I just saw KTLA's report on the incident, where they found all the stuff from the guy. He had tapes and plans on how the Columbine kids did it, tons of guns, and knives.

I am with Jazzman, how did this kid get these things? In high school I had a $5 allowance, my parents knew where I was at any given time, they knew my life. My friends were the same way. They knew our actions, we all had the same curfew in junior high: streetlights came on we were home unless previous arrangements had been made. This kid had access to guns, knives, dude...

[garbear]

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This kid had access to guns, knives, dude...

Welcome to the year 2007.

[Jazzman]

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Welcome to the year 2007.

Nah, BS. 2007 or 1907, it shouldn't make a difference. We're talking about guns here, something that isn't really that easy to acquire. Either this kid went through illegal means, which I doubt that he did, or he got them from his parents or a friend's parents. Either way, someone in this chain of events screwed up and didn't secure their firearms properly. As I said, I am fully behind the right to own a gun, but if you are careless enough with one that a teenager is able to get a hold of it and do something like this then I believe you are guilty through gross negligence and at the very least should lose your right to own firearms in the future.

[garbear]

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Nah, BS. 2007 or 1907, it shouldn't make a difference. We're talking about guns here, something that isn't really that easy to acquire. Either this kid went through illegal means, which I doubt that he did, or he got them from his parents or a friend's parents. Either way, someone in this chain of events screwed up and didn't secure their firearms properly. As I said, I am fully behind the right to own a gun, but if you are careless enough with one that a teenager is able to get a hold of it and do something like this then I believe you are guilty through gross negligence and at the very least should lose your right to own firearms in the future.

You would be surprised. Theres always that one person who knows someone who knows someone else. The main thing I don't get here is how did know one see the signs? Most of the kids in these school shootings have, a backround with cops involved.

[knittingknerd]

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Not nessarily. I mean sure there's signs that teachers are supposed to look for, but does happen?

Also did you hear what happened? After the Ohio incident a father and daughter reported to the cops about someone they thought was dangerous. Cops raided the house and found guns, knives, a grenade, bomb making plans, school blueprints, and Colombine videos. OHMYGOD!

Okay here's my thoughts in general and Jazzman made such a good point. It has to be the parents who aren't securing their stuff properly. And while I am all up for the right to bear arms, there's a big difference between the right to bear arms and the right to bear an army in your gun cabinet. I don't get this and why parents aren't.... hanging out with their kids. Parents now don't take the time to know their kids. They don't sit down and talk. If they did that maybe they'd think "hey there's something wrong here..."

[Joshrzmeup]

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If you think it's sad that a 14 year old got a hold of a gun, try this, from my local news station:

COLERAIN TOWNSHIP, Ohio -- A third-grade student has been taken into custody after he pointed a loaded gun at other students on a school bus, sheriff's deputies said.Deputies said the 8-year-old boy got on a Mount Healthy school bus in Springfield Township on Friday morning.As the bus headed toward Duvall Elementary, deputies said, the boy pulled out a fully-loaded .380 caliber Beretta handgun from his backpack.

Read more here: http://www.wlwt.com/news/14326035/detail.html