ANOTHER Fire in Malibu

[PrincessY]

Santa Anas are back and there is another fire in Malibu. An estimate of 20 homes have already been lost.

Be safe everyone!

[MsKaren]

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I saw a story about this on the news this morning. Hopefully they can attack it and get control soon. May everyone in that area be safe.

[sir clinksalot]

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I already posted this in the debate lounge, but I have absolutely no sympathy for these people.

They know this is going to happen, but they keep rebuilding. They want to be in an area that is away from people and therefore not very accessible, but then they complain that the fire trucks can't get through the canyons.

You can't have it all.

I'm tired of having these firefighters lives endangered in order to save these peoples houses.

How bout you DON'T rebuild next time.

[knittingknerd]

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I was kinda' thinking that too Sir, but then again... I am in that position. We're in an area that burns. Our area though we're not multimillion dollar homes...

Everyone be safe.

[Bruce Bergman]

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The problem you get is this: If the government forced people to build their houses in a wildland interface area to be much more fire resistant, and widen the roads & remove "One Way Out" traps, and bear more of the burden of their choices in much higher insurance premiums to cover the actual risk - they'd be accused of being heavy handed and making the mountains available for the Ultra Rich Only...

Can't win for losing on this one. Every time we try opening up alternate roads through the mountains for easy fire access and easy emergency egress out 'the back way', the NIMBY's fight it because there would be more traffic through their residential area.

Every time we try to build heli-spots and reservoirs, and put in water mains and more hydrants back in the mountains, they complain about the view being marred with that big red fireplug, or we're going to encroach on the habitat of the endangered red-backed sticklefish...

All it takes is one property owner who can't or won't get with the program on brush clearance to lose a whole block of houses. But that's okay, between the FAIR-plan (heavily State-subsidized fire insurance) and FEMA loans, they can rebuild for cheap.

And the power companies fight undergrounding their power lines tooth and nail, claiming that someone else besides the rate-payers has to pay to do it - even though many of the fires can be traced back to power lines that bumped and shorted out in the wind.

It all can be fixed, but people are going to have to give in about all their NIMBY attitudes and "I want a beautiful place to live - but I don't want to pay the real costs to have it, and I really don't want anyone else moving in next to me..." arguments to make any real progress.

--<< Bruce >>--

[kelly]

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I didnt realize there was a fire in malibu until; we wera at nellis air force base this afternoon.. WOW
plewaswe be safe everyone

thos santa anna winds are just aweful

does anyone know what caused this fire?

[aimster]

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You couldn't pay me enough to live in Malibu.

[kelly]

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I love malibu but with all the fires they have and landslides. it makes me rethink my choice

[alphabassetgrrl]

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It was a fairly impressive smoke plume. I haven't seen any images of the actual fire.

I'm kind of with Clinks, Bruce, and Aimster. It only takes a quick trip to City Hall before you buy a house to find out what the dangers of the area are. If you can't deal with those likelihoods, you shouldn't buy that house. If you live on the wilderness border, or under a hill, or near the ocean, things are going to happen.

There are disasters everywhere, but you can somewhat minimize your dangers sometimes. Living in a canyon, in wilderness, you're going to burn. Maybe not every year, but if you live there a while, it's very likely. What do they expect will happen?

Not to mention the people who won't evac. Firefighters have to stay and try to keep them safe, when the firefighters should be elsewhere, protecting a larger space.

[garbear]

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Malibu has fires and landfalls why pay millions to live there?


If I ever lived there I would just go throw my money in the trash.

[garbear]

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On this link there are some pictures of the fire. Its the local news paper where I live.

http://tracypress.com/content/view/12374/2242/

[alphabassetgrrl]

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I read an article where one resident at least gets it. He said he lost the fight this time, that he didn't build his house right. He at least used tile and stucco, though it's probably wood-framed. Another resident had 12 cars she collected and none of them were insured. ???? You live in a burn area and you don't insure them?

According to LA Fire this morning, it's 25% contained and they hope for mild winds and temperatures.

[aimster]

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Another resident had 12 cars she collected and none of them were insured. ???? You live in a burn area and you don't insure them?

Woman is a few fries short of a Happy Meal, that's for sure. I smell a potential Darwin Award nominee.

[steamboatpete]

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Woman is a few fries short of a Happy Meal, that's for sure. I smell a potential Darwin Award nominee.

Some doesn't buy enough car insurance and you think she should be killed to remove her inferior genes from the gene pool? Wow. Excuse me if I choose not to join the party.

[aimster]

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^^ Um. Joke. Sense of humor... you should try using yours sometime.

[steamboatpete]

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^^ Um. Joke. Sense of humor... you should try using yours sometime.

Oh, ha ha. Except it wasn't funny. Some people mistake vitriol and sarcasm for humor. I see you are one of those. Fine. Next time you write something cruel and idiotic, I'll remember to laugh politely.