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  • Fixing a Running Toilet

    Hey guys.
    One of our toilets keeps running on and off. The valve isn't leaking (that I can tell) and no matter how I move the floater ball it doesn't help. (It's as far up as it can go but it still runs when I put it lower). I've looked at the online help sites but they're just confusing lol

    Any ideas how I can fix this?
    Thanks
    Good morning, son
    In twenty years from now
    Maybe we'll both sit down and have a few beers
    And I can tell you 'bout today
    And how I picked you up and everything changed
    It was pain
    Sunny days and rain
    I knew you'd feel the same things...


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    Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

    My son just went to Home Depot and bought a part for ours and fixed it with no problem. It came with directions. I don't know what the part is called, but it wasn't the floater part. Not much help, huh?
    I want my cake back!
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    • #3
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      LOL Sure it helps... maybe I should go to home depot and ask them!
      Good morning, son
      In twenty years from now
      Maybe we'll both sit down and have a few beers
      And I can tell you 'bout today
      And how I picked you up and everything changed
      It was pain
      Sunny days and rain
      I knew you'd feel the same things...


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      • #4
        Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

        you need new guts.... my land lord put new in mine good as new.
        Ask your Landlord to fix it, or to buy you the fixings to fix it

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        • #5
          Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

          the only thing i know to do is bend the floater bar a bit....but you said that that isn't the problem, so IDK...

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          • #6
            Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

            Is that little rubber part on the bottom fully blocking the water?

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            • #7
              Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

              Originally posted by Aura of Foreboding View Post
              Is that little rubber part on the bottom fully blocking the water?
              That is most likely the problem. You have a bad flapper. Or the seal around it is bad. That is what happened with mine.

              Head over to Home Depot and pick up a repair kit. It consists of a new flapper,chain, a seal, and silcone gel. It's simple to replace, just make sure you turn off the water, clean, and dry the area first.
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              • #8
                Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                Originally posted by NatdRat View Post
                That is most likely the problem. You have a bad flapper.
                "Honey, there aren't no bad flappers, just misunderstood ones." ---



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                • #9
                  Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                  Originally posted by NeverNeverland View Post
                  Hey guys.
                  One of our toilets keeps running on and off. Any ideas how I can fix this?
                  Thanks
                  I have been good for 24 hours but resistance has reached its breaking point.

                  1. Have you tried taking away its flappers?
                  2. Chain it up then it can't run away.
                  3. Feed it and it will stay home.

                  There's more but I'm really, really trying to be good
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                  • #10
                    Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                    Originally posted by pratt55 View Post
                    I have been good for 24 hours but resistance has reached its breaking point.

                    1. Have you tried taking away its flappers?
                    2. Chain it up then it can't run away.
                    3. Feed it and it will stay home.

                    There's more but I'm really, really trying to be good
                    I was wondering when this was going to happen....all I could think when I saw the thread title was "Take away it's tennis shoes?" :lol: Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way!
                    Originally posted by larasound
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                    • #11
                      Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                      Originally posted by evilqueenrocks View Post
                      I was wondering when this was going to happen....all I could think when I saw the thread title was "Take away it's tennis shoes?" :lol: Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way!
                      No, you bolt it's feet to the floor and make it sing that song for 8 hours a day...

                      If you can't adjust the float level on the old fashioned fill valve, go get a new Fluidmaster kit and follow the instructions. And measure for a new braided stainless flex hose from the wall to the toilet.

                      If the toilet leaks down and is constantly refilling, you need to replace the flush flapper. Easy to replace if you get the correct parts, a pain and a second trip if you don't.

                      If you have the kind of water shutoff stop valve with the permanently attached corrugated copper flex line, you REALLY need to change the stop valve to a modern seperate-hose style, as the compression washer can blow out of the fill valve and cause a flooded bathroom - needless to say, this is very bad. Well worth the trouble to shut off the water and change out the wall stop valve.

                      Before you go to the store take pictures of everything, and take along the camera - if you have a laser printer make 8-1/2 X 11 greyscale print-outs, because it's impossible to see fine details on the camera screen. Then you can point to the picture and say "I need one of these..."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                        The flapper is ok I think. It doesn't seem to be leaking and refilling but idk. Is there a good way to check that?

                        I think it's the floater thing. It might be the arm? But this toilet has an accordion type floater that raises and lowers. It doesn't have the ball on the arm.

                        ugh idk. we just might ask the landlord to take care of it.
                        Good morning, son
                        In twenty years from now
                        Maybe we'll both sit down and have a few beers
                        And I can tell you 'bout today
                        And how I picked you up and everything changed
                        It was pain
                        Sunny days and rain
                        I knew you'd feel the same things...


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                        • #13
                          Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                          Originally posted by NeverNeverland View Post
                          The flapper is ok I think. It doesn't seem to be leaking and refilling but idk. Is there a good way to check that?

                          I think it's the floater thing. It might be the arm? But this toilet has an accordion type floater that raises and lowers. It doesn't have the ball on the arm.

                          ugh idk. we just might ask the landlord to take care of it.
                          That happened to ours (and it was brand new! aghhh). It was the rubber seal that goes around the actual tank. It looked flat but it had a bubble in it and that allowed the toilet to continue to cycle on and off.

                          Plumbing is no fun! I say call the landlord.
                          Rally Rat, Oh how I've missed thee!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Fixing a Running Toilet

                            Originally posted by NeverNeverland View Post
                            The flapper is ok I think. It doesn't seem to be leaking and refilling but idk. Is there a good way to check that?

                            I think it's the floater thing. It might be the arm? But this toilet has an accordion type floater that raises and lowers. It doesn't have the ball on the arm.

                            ugh idk. we just might ask the landlord to take care of it.
                            If you push down on the float, does the water fill come on? It could just be the float sticking on the housing, might only need a good scrubbing with a Scotchbrtite pad to clean off the gunge that builds up there. Or the linkage gets stuck or bent from messing around in there without knowing what not to bend. :blush:

                            You flush, the float drops, the water comes on. The little fill hose puts some water down the overflow pipe to refill the bowl. The water level approaches the 'fill line' about a half-inch below the top of the overflow pipe, the float rises, the water shuts off.

                            Let's see, does Fluidmaster have a troubleshooting page?... Why yes, they do! Go to www.fluidmaster.com and click on the "Tips and Repair" header.

                            If the valve looks like that you don't have to replace the whole thing, they sell just the seal and cap seperately and the seal is usually the culprit.

                            Get the name and part numbers off the fill valve. There were some oddball ones made by the toilet companies that tried to skirt around patents held by Fluidmaster and others, but most of them weren't good. That's why most of them gave up and bought OEM versions of Fluidmasters, and then they don't have to worry about it.

                            The fill valve is easy enough to change if you are patient and good at following directions. And have a second working bathroom if this takes a while, or a second trip to the home store.

                            --<< Bruce >>--
                            There's No Place Like 127.0.0.1

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