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    Anyone know when the Gibson contract will be up for Universal's Amphitheater? Just curious. Speaking of which, how is it that Universal decided to retheme Van Helsing maze because their rights to it expired, but they made the movie?? Is it the character being licensed to them?? THANKS

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    pssst - van helsing was a universal movie from the get-go made by their favorite man stephen sommers (the mummy guy?). so, i don't think it was a case of the licensing running out (i.e. comic book stuff, etc). i think it was more of the case that hardly anyone went to it and it just needed to be revamped. it was slowly declining while i worked there - the busy times would always be when waterworld would be over.

    gibson, i believe, only recently acquired the ampitheatre rights. because when i began to work at ush at the beginning of 2004, it was still universal's property. i believe the switch happened - when HOB bought them, around 2005. coastermatt might have more details on that.

    imo - the maze worked better as a themed restaurant. i mean, first it was 'the mummy' - then that got its own roller coaster, and now van helsing is gone. sigh. when will ush learn??
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      Originally posted by filmfreak11 View Post
      Anyone know when the Gibson contract will be up for Universal's Amphitheater?


      Apr 18, 2005 6:28 PM,
      By Mix Editors

      Universal Studios Partnerships represented Universal Studios in the 10-year deal with Gibson Guitar.www.gibson.com, www.universalstudios.com and www.hob.com.
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        kickcows, I know they made the movie. That's why I mentioned it in the OP. But there have been other sites that said the rights were expired. That's why I'm asking. Cause it doesn't make any darn sense. thestudiotour.com and insideuniversal.net are great fansites.

        Thanks, ALIASd! So we got like 8 more years until the venue can be relocated and the Amphitheater site goes back to theme park use (at least that's according to The Vision Plan, which I like this part).

        "You're not thinking fourth dimensionally!" -Back to the Future

        "With this place, I wanted to give them something real, something that wasn't an illusion, something they could see and touch. An aim devoid of merit."
        -Jurassic Park

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        • #5
          Re: Gibson at USH

          Originally posted by filmfreak11 View Post
          kickcows, I know they made the movie. That's why I mentioned it in the OP. But there have been other sites that said the rights were expired. That's why I'm asking. Cause it doesn't make any darn sense. thestudiotour.com and insideuniversal.net are great fansites.

          Thanks, ALIASd! So we got like 8 more years until the venue can be relocated and the Amphitheater site goes back to theme park use (at least that's according to The Vision Plan, which I like this part).
          The Universal Amphitheatre opened in 1972. Don't see Universal giving up a major onsite venue that generates so much revenue, particularly for special events and private rental.

          With regards to the 'Van Helsing' questions.
          Universal payed for usage rights for the film, game, theme park attraction, etc. Everything is dependent upon the individual deal has an expiration date. Had the film done far better than it did ( and was expected to do ) they might've built in more time for USH.

          At the original pre-production presentation given in the Alfred Hitchcock Theatre on the lot which I attended director Stephen Sommers had his heart set on a series of 'Van Helsing'-type films featuring other Universal famous Monsters. 'V.H.'s performance and reception changed all that.

          Hope this has helped.
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            ^ According to THE VISION PLAN there will be a new revenue built southeast of the Gibson. Right now I think it's a backstage parking lot. And it'd be closer to CityWalk access. Right where the future Sky Venture is. And essentially exactly where I proposed a new venue before I looked into more details about this plan. Then the Gibson would be relieved of its duties and be used for the park. Either a total demo or new show. I think there's enough room to build 2 attractions.

            Thanks for the VH answer. Kind of interesting there was talk before of Universal using robocoasters to make a VH attraction. So does anyone really know who owns the rights to the VH character? I actually enjoyed VH. It was a good popcorn flick. And the LOVE the music!

            I bet Sommers was planning to have an Invisible Man if he was able to make a sequel. Don't know about The Mummy. That'd be just a little awkward

            "You're not thinking fourth dimensionally!" -Back to the Future

            "With this place, I wanted to give them something real, something that wasn't an illusion, something they could see and touch. An aim devoid of merit."
            -Jurassic Park

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            • #7
              Re: Gibson at USH

              Originally posted by filmfreak11 View Post
              Thanks for the VH answer. Kind of interesting there was talk before of Universal using robocoasters to make a VH attraction. So does anyone really know who owns the rights to the VH character?
              Probably by whoever owns the rights to 'Bram Stoker's Dracula'.
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              • #8
                Re: Gibson at USH

                wow.

                you learn something new every day.

                thanks aliasd!!!
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                • #9
                  Re: Gibson at USH

                  A pleasure.
                  "If you don't know how to draw, you don't belong in this building" - John Lasseter 2006

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                  • #10
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                    Unless I'm mistaken, it's not about rights to the character (isn't that public domain now?) - it's rights to the creative interpretation of the character. I imagine Sommers negotiated ownership of that.

                    Similar to the fact that I could go out and build a Snow White attraction, but I couldn't build a "Disney Snow White" attraction.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Gibson at USH

                      Originally posted by ekester View Post
                      Unless I'm mistaken, it's not about rights to the character (isn't that public domain now?) - it's rights to the creative interpretation of the character. I imagine Sommers negotiated ownership of that.

                      Similar to the fact that I could go out and build a Snow White attraction, but I couldn't build a "Disney Snow White" attraction.
                      From what I was told by a Universal rep at the time the rights were in fact held by some entity. This was partly the reason for creating a different "Van Helsing" character Gabriel, rather than Stoker's Abraham.

                      And good luck with your "Snow White" attraction, sounds fun!
                      "If you don't know how to draw, you don't belong in this building" - John Lasseter 2006

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