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  • SFMM- Will there be a new ride this year?

    Does anyone know if Magic Mountain will be getting a new ride this year. Last year killed me when they didn't do anything new.
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    Nothing new this year, hopefully they'll spend the cash on much needed park improvements, place looks really run down and everything could use a new coat of paint. But rumors are already circulating to expect something VERY BIG in 2006!
    "I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again..."- Bart Simpson

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    • #3
      I doubt they'll spend money on improvements. It seems they don't care much how their park looks. As for next year, it has to be something big since they've passed on anything new for two straight years. Thanks for the info
      How to control someone to be a carbon copy of you. How to have that not work and have them run away from you.

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      • #4
        Just keeping their restrooms clean and well stocked with "paper products" would be a major improvement.

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        • #5
          The big event is they will finally ask their paint sponsor for paint to paint the park.
          "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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          • #6
            Nothing on the web site, and there would be something by now.

            [sarcasm] Big news: Stupid old dancing guy will get a stupid old dancing partner.[/sarcasm]

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            • #7
              Six Flaggs Is Crap

              I went to Six Flaggs last year on Halloween and I must say that the park looks horrible. The paint is peeling all over the place, people leaving trash, gum all over. This park really got ghetto and the people that work there don't give a crap about anybody...I really hope that they fix this cuz i use to love this park so much and now it's crap..Try riding the shuttle tram, it's a disgrace..Anybody feeling me on this? Why does six flaggs keep that stupid annual pass so cheap?

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              • #8
                As a former Six Flags Guest Relations CM, I can tell you that not all employees are indifferent to guest needs. But they do have a LONG way to go in that department. As far as upkeep goes, as I undestand it once Warner Bros sold off the Six Flags parks, upkeep no longer was a concern to the new managment. They only paint areas that get new attractions and then just let it fade away.
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                • #9
                  As a former Six Flags Guest Relations CM, I can tell you that not all employees are indifferent to guest needs. But they do have a LONG way to go in that department. As far as upkeep goes, as I undestand it once Warner Bros sold off the Six Flags parks, upkeep no longer was a concern to the new managment. They only paint areas that get new attractions and then just let it fade away.
                  - Edited by Dustysage to add quote marks

                  Thanks for the info buddy..I just wished that the park would be kept up more..
                  Last edited by Dustysage; 02-09-2005, 02:45 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TStar05
                    Does anyone know if Magic Mountain will be getting a new ride this year. Last year killed me when they didn't do anything new.
                    No new ride this year. The last new attraction was Scream (2003).

                    The park may receive a rocket coaster replacing Superman The Escape, but using the vertical support structure for 2006. Not only would Superman be removed, but it appears that an original coaster may have to be removed to make room for this ride. Basically, a clone of the one going in at the New Jersey park. It will make headlines for the park which is what they want.

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                    • #11
                      ^ I have heard that rumor, if it's true it's too bad. They spent SO much money on Superman, and I do like the ride. I like the idea of a Rocket coaster, but I don't want another clone. It would be nice if it were an original design.

                      The other thing to remember is that Intamin built Superman. Intamin is also the designer of all of the rocket coasters. SFMM and Intamin do not have a good working relationship.

                      It also would be a shame if they had to remove 2 rides just to put in 1. The only choices for removal from that area might be Gold Rusher, Ninja or maybe Revolution.

                      Revolution used to be great. It stinks now, but it's an ACE coaster classic. It would probably stay.

                      Gold Rusher was the original park coaster, it would probably stay.

                      That leaves Ninja. Now, as the only BIG coaster in the park with less than a 48" height requirement (It's now at 42") I would hope it would stay since outside of BBW there isn't much for kids to do in the park besides Ninja, Freefall and some of the flat rides.

                      If I had my choice it would be to remove Psyclone and build an original Flyer or an Intamin Hyper coaster. Sure, that would be 2 hyper coasters in the same park, but who cares.

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                      • #12
                        Rumors abound as to what MM will get next, but the most consistent one is that the park will get a flyer in 2006 and that it will be built on, around and through the mountain. There is work being done in the area and on superman the ride. Whether this work is for a flyer or a rocket coaster and what will become of Superman is pure speculation but word has it that an announcement will be made sometime in the near future.
                        Until then it's all just rumors.
                        MM definately needs to clean up and rework their thinking on how to run a park. I think they are starting to get the idea that while having great rides but the park looks like the local landfill isn't going to satisify customers. They also need to get out the paint brush, makes a workd of difference. And they need to get rid of the old parking space lines underneath some on the new rides. Just shows you how concerned they are with upkeep and detail.
                        As far as the employees go (for most, not all because there are always a few good ones) they need to lose there attitudes and pull up there pants. Most of the one's I've seen there dress like absolute slobs. You want to dress like that outside of work, fine. But not when your getting paid and you're interacting with the public. A very very poor way to represent yourself and the park IMO.
                        Sorry, kinda wandered off the subject a bit; yeah, flyer 2006 that's what I hear.
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                        • #13
                          ^ Not only parking lot lines, but bleach stains.

                          Why bleach stains you ask? Well, remember when the SFMM employee got killed by a Scream train that was testing? Well ... while on the ride, in the helix you can see a big bleach stain. Well ... that's where she got hit and that is basically covering up the blood stains. Yeah. VERY tacky if you ask me.

                          I have heard the flyer rumor as well, I just don't know where it would go without removing a ride.

                          Their have been some paint marks throughout the park lately, but they have been for tree removal. Nothing else.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sir clinksalot
                            ^ I have heard that rumor, if it's true it's too bad. They spent SO much money on Superman, and I do like the ride. I like the idea of a Rocket coaster, but I don't want another clone. It would be nice if it were an original design.

                            The other thing to remember is that Intamin built Superman. Intamin is also the designer of all of the rocket coasters. SFMM and Intamin do not have a good working relationship.
                            Magic Mountain is owned by Six Flags. To say that SFMM and Intamin do not have a good working relationship would be false.

                            The local parks do not call the shots in terms of capital expenditures. They may have input, or offer suggestions, but they are not developing the relationships with the ride vendors. The ride vendors work directly with SF corporate.

                            One final point I forgot. Why would SF invest a good majority of their capital expenditures in a ride from Intamin if they did not have a good working relationship.

                            Finally, another rumor I heard was that SF has commited to build three rocket coasters from Intamin. Care to guess the two parks that will get the ride besides Great Adventure?

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                            • #15
                              SFMM Needs new management.... and bigger yearly budget.... Many trip reports i read about the park show that half the coasters are shut down daily... Why?? Money!!!

                              They have money to blow on a new ride, but not run or maintaign their existing rides...

                              park chains like Anheuser busch pave their parking lots, and if they take some away.. remove the lot.... SFMM builds over and keeps the lines.... without repalcing the removed spots....

                              anheuser busch paints when it starts to get somewhat bad.... SF will paint when a new ride is built in that area....

                              Verdict: Anheuser busch builds a new attraction at it's main Busch parks about every 3 years, and SW when they can get them.... They maintaign the parks better, and have money budgeted to maintaign and run 99% of the attractions daily....

                              SFMM: Sucks compaired to even privite themeparks.....

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by cfparkmanager
                                Magic Mountain is owned by Six Flags. To say that SFMM and Intamin do not have a good working relationship would be false.
                                Thanks for the biggest belly laugh of my day.
                                2006 will mark 10 years since Superman: The Escape was supposed to open. Those nine extra months that the ride didn't open cost the park a lot of money (and in Del's eyes, prestige). I'm just glad nobody like Del is in charge at DL (for the moment).
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by figment1986
                                  SFMM: Sucks compaired to even privite themeparks.....
                                  Well yeah, when you consider that parks like Knott's (well, used to be), Holiday World, Dollywood, Knoebels, etc are privately owned parks I would have to agree.

                                  Magic Mountain is owned by Six Flags. To say that SFMM and Intamin do not have a good working relationship would be false.
                                  Actually, as much as I wish it were false, it's actually true, as was stated above. Again, think about it. Intamin has not built a ride at SFMM in 10 years. No Hyper Coasters (SFMM got one of those), no Rocket Coasters, no drop towers, nothing. Yet SFMM has added 2 B&M's (Scream, Riddlers) a Vekoma (Deja Vu) an Arrow (X) and a Gionvola (Goliath). No mention of Intamin anywhere.

                                  Again, my guess is that SFMM will get another B&M, either a drop machine or a flyer since those are basically the only B&M's they don't have, other than a hyper.

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                                  • #18
                                    Six Flags: Bankrupcy Pending?

                                    Premier Parks, the parent company of SF is going broke... so is it any surprise that we stopped seeing those new rides every year? Basically, the Premier business strategy has been to buy as many regional parks as possible and fill them with either cookie cutter rides or poorly planned rides (i.e. Superman and Deja Vu). Then, by slashing season pass prices, they expect to reap the rewards of their labor.

                                    Is it working? Well, they are out of cash and nearly out of credit. Case in point: in 2003, SF spent less money on ride development in its thirty parks worldwide than Disney spent on Mission Space alone (and yes, I know that comparing the two is not quite fair). Combine that with a forty percent drop in stock prices for 2004, and you have serious trouble. Sure, there may be speculation about new rides, but I would not expect anything grand.

                                    So what is SF doing to boost their numbers after a 4 percent drop last year? Why lower their AP prices of course... We all know how well that worked for Disney.
                                    I didn't say a word.

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                                    • #19
                                      Has anyone else noticed the correlation between Premier Parks and the dancing old guy? Both are old, decrepit & totally in denial about their own health. He's a very good personifier of the parks if you think about it. Both look like they're about to croak, yet their just dancing around, happy as clams, not doing a thing about it or even caring really.

                                      -- Peoplemover "From the people who brought you the worst named coasters ever, now bring you the worst named Annual Pass ever!" Matt

                                      "Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom." -- James 3:13

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                                      • #20
                                        I wish Newhall Land (Lennar Corp) would but Magic Mountain back. They were the original owners I believe. They should close the park for about one year to clean it and remove most of the roller coasters. They should attempt to turn it back into a family theme park sort of how it was in the 70's and early 80's. Most of all, they should not allow any gangmembers or anyone who resembles one in the park. The area around Six Flags is not the same that it used to be before all the big rides started coming in and the cheap yearly pass was introduced. Peoplemovermatt, I believe you live in Valencia also and know what I am talking about.
                                        "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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