USH Expansion

[BugSam101]

So this may be a month old but just sharing with the rest of you who didn't know and also the Picture in the link was in another thread so you may have seen it but now it's confirmed. Universal Studios Hollywood Approved for 1.6 Billion Dollar Expansion

On a side note it says WWoHP & Despicable Me isn't included in exxpansion budget. :o
Bigger Version of the Picture
http://www-deadline-com.vimg.net/wp-...0716225238.jpg

[jasmineray]

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Whatever is happening the future, I wish they'd get started already. The Terminator is going bye-bye at the end of this year, so I guess that's a start.

[BugSam101]

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That's official? I need to go then I haven't been to the Terminator in years

[jasmineray]

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Yep, sure is. Here's an article:

Universal Studios Hollywood Saying 'Hasta La Vista' To Terminator 2: 3-D

[Chuuster]

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It saddens me that USH has to get rid of classic attractions to make way for new ones: ET, BTTF, and now Terminator. Hopefully this expansion makes up for its loses.

[JesterMn]

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It saddens me that USH has to get rid of classic attractions to make way for new ones: ET, BTTF, and now Terminator. Hopefully this expansion makes up for its loses.

Um, you do realize that's a general philosophy for most major theme parks: for a new ride to go in, an old ride is eliminated. While there are exceptions, the reality is, theme parks have limited space. Disney itself generally has that philosophy.

[Rocker]

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Um, you do realize that's a general philosophy for most major theme parks: for a new ride to go in, an old ride is eliminated. While there are exceptions, the reality is, theme parks have limited space. Disney itself generally has that philosophy.

Not to mention Universal still needs a lot of those soundstages. As much as I love T2 and BTTF, there times were up. The Simpsons and The Mummy were good replacements and they were nice changes, especially The Simpsons since it turned out to be funny and thrilling. The Mummy is OK, but the Florida version is MUCH better.

At any rate, I'm glad USH is expanding. They need it.

[jasmineray]

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Agreed. The park would SERIOUSLY be dated if attractions never switched up. I'm sure years and years from now, Transformers and Simpsons will be gone, just like Back to the Future and Terminator. It's time for a change.

[Chuuster]

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Um, you do realize that's a general philosophy for most major theme parks: for a new ride to go in, an old ride is eliminated. While there are exceptions, the reality is, theme parks have limited space. Disney itself generally has that philosophy.

I'm sorry I had an opinion. Its just my wishful thinking for the park to expand and keep its influential rides, like how Disneyland keeps its classics. I'm not against the expansion, I'll just be missing the Terminator show.

[BugSam101]

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@jasmineray Thanks for the article.

Gosh I can't believe it's the end and I will probably won't get to the park in time as USH is not a theme park I insist on going to anymore. Although once ground breaking start on WWoHP I will visit frequently.

@Chuuster USH has many things that are I guess "original" such as the Tram which started it all and.....I guess not many after all. You also reminded me of my Favorite Attraction which is gone now Backdraft(mainly because that is my all-time favorite movie). Oh how I miss it :'(

---------- Post added 11-27-2012 at 02:44 AM ----------

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...61h6enC292O7xw Could we expect that kind of size of a crowd come whenever Potter magically appears.
I also found this Image http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zrxI6HDDTo...ngworldmap.jpg on a Planned WWoHP area

[JesterMn]

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I'm sorry I had an opinion. Its just my wishful thinking for the park to expand and keep its influential rides, like how Disneyland keeps its classics. I'm not against the expansion, I'll just be missing the Terminator show.

I'm not bashing your opinion. I'm just stating how things are run. It's fine if you're going to miss an attraction. But missing it doesn't change how things are run.

I'd kinda also dispute your statement that Disney has kept a lot of its classics. Peoplemover, Adventures Through Innerspace, America Sings, Mermaids, House of the Future, Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse, Tahitian Terrance, Rainbow Cavern Mine Train, Country Bear Jamboree, etc. aren't around anymore. I miss all those attractions myself, but they're not coming back, and they weren't kept by Disney.

Fortunately many other attractions remain (Matterhorn, Teacups, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Mark Twain, etc.)--which is probably to your point--but in the meantime, plenty have also been lost, which is mine.

[jasmineray]

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@BugSam Your welcome!

If Universal Studios Hollywood was a theme park first and a lot bigger, I'm sure some of the classics would still be there. I don't think it's fair to compare Disneyland and USH. Disneyland was built with the objective of it to be a theme park. Universal Studios is a movie studio established in 1914 or 1915, that offered guests tours of the backlot. It wasn't until the sixties when the studios was turned into a theme park, albeit a small one. It's not like USH has plenty of room to put build more attractions. There are only four rides in the entire park for Pete's sake. Four. That's not a lot at all. Things will always have to switch up.

[sir clinksalot]

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T2 came out 22 years ago. The attraction is fun, but I've seen it 2-3 times and that was enough. It's time for something new.

[kburford]

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awww i actually like The Terminator. Well, what I enjoy most is how the show uses the whole theater. From the live actors to the 3D to the seats moving...it's pretty fun. I bet when it cam out it was pretty impressive....heck, i'm still impressed! So as long as something new & innovative replaces it, I'll be happy. As for the Simpsons ride....I don't remember Back to the Future too well, but it must've been better than the Simpsons, I hope; I personally find the Simpsons ride to be pretty bad.

[fifthrider]

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I suspect a few of us ( JesterMn, Chuuster ) are actually more on the same page with each other than at odds.

Yeah, I'll miss T2-3D as well, it was a neat attraction. Although some attractions needs to go, some need to stay. I don't know about you guys but I'd be kind of pissed if they went into Fantasyland and removed all 5 of the dark rides around the castle. For this reason, there's kind of good reason to support keeping some attractions for quite a while. Imagine if one day Disney announced they were tearing down Sleeping Beauty castle for a new attraction. A lot of people wouldn't be okay with that. I don't see many defending it with "Well, it was time to level it and put in something new." There's some credence to where Chuuster's coming from.

On the flip side, it's true that some rides DO need to change. I'd agree that I miss BTTF in a big way but Universal is about movies and movies change. The Simpsons ride did actually raise the bar ( IMHO ) over BTTF. If they hadn't updated Universal's park and tour then we'd still be parking in the lot that's now the CityWalk, we'd still be boarding the tram at the front of the park not the back, and the only mascots wandering the park would be Frankenstein, Groucho and Woody Woodpecker. ( I do not miss the 70s. ) I will miss T2-3D but think the Potter thing will be overall more immersive than what's in there now. Might as well welcome this.

[goofy donald]

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I suspect a few of us ( JesterMn, Chuuster ) are actually more on the same page with each other than at odds.

Yeah, I'll miss T2-3D as well, it was a neat attraction. Although some attractions needs to go, some need to stay. I don't know about you guys but I'd be kind of pissed if they went into Fantasyland and removed all 5 of the dark rides around the castle. For this reason, there's kind of good reason to support keeping some attractions for quite a while. Imagine if one day Disney announced they were tearing down Sleeping Beauty castle for a new attraction. A lot of people wouldn't be okay with that. I don't see many defending it with "Well, it was time to level it and put in something new." There's some credence to where Chuuster's coming from.

On the flip side, it's true that some rides DO need to change. I'd agree that I miss BTTF in a big way but Universal is about movies and movies change. The Simpsons ride did actually raise the bar ( IMHO ) over BTTF. If they hadn't updated Universal's park and tour then we'd still be parking in the lot that's now the CityWalk, we'd still be boarding the tram at the front of the park not the back, and the only mascots wandering the park would be Frankenstein, Groucho and Woody Woodpecker. ( I do not miss the 70s. ) I will miss T2-3D but think the Potter thing will be overall more immersive than what's in there now. Might as well welcome this.

totally agree here, i was extremely saddened to hear that amityville was closing as jaws was arguably THE classic universal attraction in orlando, and i was certainly not happy to hear they were going to replace it with MORE potter, but they have given me a lot of effort and put tons of work into things to look forward to so ill keep an open mind.

[Chuuster]

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I'm not bashing your opinion. I'm just stating how things are run. It's fine if you're going to miss an attraction. But missing it doesn't change how things are run.

I'd kinda also dispute your statement that Disney has kept a lot of its classics. Peoplemover, Adventures Through Innerspace, America Sings, Mermaids, House of the Future, Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse, Tahitian Terrance, Rainbow Cavern Mine Train, Country Bear Jamboree, etc. aren't around anymore. I miss all those attractions myself, but they're not coming back, and they weren't kept by Disney.

Fortunately many other attractions remain (Matterhorn, Teacups, Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Mark Twain, etc.)--which is probably to your point--but in the meantime, plenty have also been lost, which is mine.

Thank you, and I understand that it is how theme parks are run, I was just expressing my nostalgia as a farewell. I totally get your point that even Disney loses its classics. I'm a 90's kid so I never even had the awesome privilege of enjoying some of those Disney attractions.

I suspect a few of us ( JesterMn, Chuuster ) are actually more on the same page with each other than at odds.

Yeah, I'll miss T2-3D as well, it was a neat attraction. Although some attractions needs to go, some need to stay. I don't know about you guys but I'd be kind of pissed if they went into Fantasyland and removed all 5 of the dark rides around the castle. For this reason, there's kind of good reason to support keeping some attractions for quite a while. Imagine if one day Disney announced they were tearing down Sleeping Beauty castle for a new attraction. A lot of people wouldn't be okay with that. I don't see many defending it with "Well, it was time to level it and put in something new." There's some credence to where Chuuster's coming from.

On the flip side, it's true that some rides DO need to change. I'd agree that I miss BTTF in a big way but Universal is about movies and movies change. The Simpsons ride did actually raise the bar ( IMHO ) over BTTF. If they hadn't updated Universal's park and tour then we'd still be parking in the lot that's now the CityWalk, we'd still be boarding the tram at the front of the park not the back, and the only mascots wandering the park would be Frankenstein, Groucho and Woody Woodpecker. ( I do not miss the 70s. ) I will miss T2-3D but think the Potter thing will be overall more immersive than what's in there now. Might as well welcome this.

Thank you for seeing where I am coming from. I agree, I love the new additions and replacements. It's just sad to see Universal staples leave, just as it would for Disney rides that had history. In my humble opinion, no offense intended, it seems like Universal is just buying new franchises to win the hearts of today's crowd, tossing their classics into a vault. However, It is understandable with the size that USH has to work with. I still can't wait to see the park after this major refurbish.

[mratigan]

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Chuuster, I agree that tit seems many of there rides are replaced with new franchise from other studios
harry potter,simpsons,marvel(IOA),suess....

[edge4004]

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Based on a rumor from Screamscape, it looks likes like there might be some early consideration to purchase the Lakeside Golf Club. They're thinking this might be in response to USH wanting to become a resort. If this does turn out to be true, I wonder how it would all work out.

Once you click the link below, it will be towards the bottom. I've also pasted an excerpt of it here.

Universal Studios Hollywood

Future Theme Park Resort and Studio Development Rumors - (12/3/12) Screamscape has been hearing some very early rumblings claiming that possible new and major changes may be on the way to set up the future development of Universal Studios Hollywood over the next decade and beyond, as supported by the new owners at Comcast. With Disneyland’s latest efforts really shining a focused beam of light on what can be achieved by a quality theme park resort experience in California, as well as what they’ve see taking place in Orlando, there may be early plans in the works to try and find a way to expand the Hollywood park in a way that it can stay competitive with the Disneyland Resort. After all, with Disney’s California Adventure now firing on all cylinders, and the rumors of Disney eventually building a third park in Anaheim looking more clear each year, Universal Studios Hollywood needs to find a way to remain competitive against the Mouse.
We’ve already see the Evolution plan completely turned on it’s head, with a renewed focus revising the existing property for the business interests of the Studio itself as well as the theme park side of things, abandoning the odd previous plans to sell off large tracts of land for residential use.
According to the early rumors, the next possible phase of development to create a Universal Resort experience in Hollywood may involve buying the massive private Lakeside Golf Club that lies right behind the studio backlot. The exact intentions of this purchase are not entirely clear, but the site could be used to allow for future expansion of the lower backlot area and studio production facilities. If the studio were to relocate some production elements to this property, it could also allow for the expansion of the theme park itself to extend more into the lower lot, allowing for not only more pedestrian access, but more attractions as well.
One such rumored development may already be linked to the impending Wizarding World of Harry Potter project, which may force the Studio Tram Tours to move the boarding area to the lower lot once again. If you recall your park history, the massive “Starway” down to the lower lot was first installed to give guests access to the new ET Ride, walk-up access to the Cinemagic show area, and they also moved the entrance to the Tram tour down there as well. It was moved back to the upper lot into the current location when they built the Jurassic Park ride, which blocked off the road access to the lower lot tram depot. With the Wizarding World needing to take over as much land as they can free up on the upper lot, it is conceivable that the backlot tram tour entrance could be moved down to the lower lot once again in the next five years.
If the rumors are true and things move smoothly, I’ve heard that a possible announcement that may include some new future development ideas for the Studio property could be released as early as Spring 2013. Anyone else know more?

There's also an article on Inside Universal that talks about why something like this would be hard to do:

http://insideuniversal.net/2012/12/r...e-golf-course/

[F!an]

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The Los Angeles River acts as a physical border between Universal City and the golf course.