Question about using someone else's AP

[squinky]

I'm going to DL in a couple of weeks with a friend who looks slightly like my sister. They're not exactly identical twins but they look enough alike. My sister has an AP and my friend doesn't. I like Disneyland, of course, but I don't especially like Disney the company and so I wouldn't shed any tears if I could get someone else in free (essentially) without spending the 70 bucks they want for a single day parkhopper.

I've heard that Disney is especially strict about this but the times I've gone with my AP they scan it and that's it. They never hold the picture up next to my face or anything like that. I assume that I would not be able to use an elderly black man's AP but since my sister and my friend look similar I think my friend would pass the short visual test.

The only thing I'm worried about is if they found out that my friend was using an AP that did not belong to her. Would they take it away or revoke it or something? I doubt they would, especially since "We thought another person could use it?"

I'd really prefer that comments about the ethics of this not be posted because, as I said before, I don't feel bad about ripping Disney off. I wouldn't steal merch or spend counterfeit Disney Dollars, of course, but this is an entirely different matter.
Thanks!

[Mousey Girl]

I have had them really look at the picture and at me, usually about 50% of the time.

If you are caught the pass will be taken.

[HarajukuBoy]

Everytime I've gone, they just barely look at the picture on my AP. Not to mention the fact that I look nothing like my picture anymore either. I have never been asked for another form of ID either. Just be confident, and they won't suspect. That's my advice.

[ttztotdca50]

That's kinda sad that you want to ruin the system, taking advantage of the fact that the Cast Members are usually too busy to fully check your AP.



Shame, shame.

[figment1986]

disney is strict.. if the pass if found to be used by someone else... the pass is taken away and the account is most likely deactivated....

[Whatever]

I have had them really look at the picture and at me, usually about 50% of the time.

If you are caught the pass will be taken.

Ditto. Last couple of times I renewed I haven't had a new picture taken and have since gotten new glassses. The look me over frequently. I wouldn't try it, especially if is is a Deluxe or Premium.

I don't feel bad about ripping Disney off. I wouldn't steal merch or spend counterfeit Disney Dollars, of course, but this is an entirely different matter.

I'll reserve my comments on this for now, but I would like to hear you rationalize the difference between the two :confused:

[HarajukuBoy]

Disclaimer: Any comments I stated above do not condone any behavior. (Sorry if people get upset over others actions)

[squinky]

I'll reserve my comments on this for now, but I would like to hear you rationalize the difference between the two :confused:

I can't, really, when it comes down to it. Ultimately we will probably pay for my friend's ticket as I would have a heart attack going through the gates with what is essentially a 'fake ID.'

I guess I could say that we did pay for the pass at one point and we would spend as much money if I took my sister or my friend (probably more, actually, because my sister would annoy me and I would want to leave earlier). There's no way to justify it against proper ethics but it's an entirely victimless crime and I wouldn't feel bad about doing it (and I'm normally very ethical).

Or I could just post this link: http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar...isnerbonus.htm

[StephanieA]

I had a friend who "sorta" looked like me that wanted to borrow my pass. I said no way, first because I didn't think that it was honest, and secondly because I was afraid that my pass would be revoked if she were caught. It is completely up to you, your friend and your sister whether you want to try it, but I know I would be too chicken to do it for fear of losing my expensive pass.

And from my experience, even on busy days, the cast members almost always give me a good look and double check the pass to make sure it is who it is suppose to be.

[sleepyjeff]

Or I could just post this link: http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar...isnerbonus.htm

In that case, I guess it would be ok for you to steal anything you want, so long as it is from a company that has an overpaid CEO :confused:

[prillzilla]

Ap

Ahoy all,

I have a CM friend who works security at DLR. I realize ticket prices are sky high. But my friend says they have stacks of annual passes that they have confiscated mostly from the wrong people using them. I wouldn't risk it. Don't do that to your friend.

Aprille

[Whatever]

Or I could just post this link: http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar...isnerbonus.htm

I can't say that I'm happy that he get's that much I don't think he deserves it at all, but apparently the shareholders and the board does (thich is why some of them need to go!)

There's no way to justify it against proper ethics but it's an entirely victimless crime and I wouldn't feel bad about doing it (and I'm normally very ethical).

Anytime an agreememt is broken (like an AP agreememt) or someone steals from someone (even a big nameless corporation) there is a victim, no matter how insignificant the theft.

I don't really have a personal problem with what you propose to possibly do, I've sat through movies I haven't paid for and downloaded the occasional MP3. Just call it what it is.

[Tech_Disney]

first of all, he already admited that this wasn't an ethical thing, so why is everyone giving him a lecture about being ethical?

second of all, I wouldn't do it, but only because I wouldn't want to get my AP taken away.

[Whatever]

first of all, he already admited that this wasn't an ethical thing, so why is everyone giving him a lecture about being ethical?

Because they posted to a public forum?

[Dustysage]

Sorry, but we aren't going to have discussions about ripping Disney off. Using someone else's pass is beyond unethical and is quite possibly illegal. As such, this thread is closed and has been moved to the litter box.

[Monorail Man]

Like your Annual Passport itself, your parking benefit is non-transferable.