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    Those of you out west better hope that the Christmas parties don't eventually turn into what they are here in Florida. Where you can't get Christmas in the MK until after the 20th unless you pay for it. Remember the parties started out here as a way for locals to get the christmas experience a few nights at the beginning of December to what it is today. Of course at least you guys get to experience Halloween stuff in DL whereas Halloween at MK is a total upcharge event which has gone up in price dramatically in the last 5 years.

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    • #3
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      Disneyland is one of the few places you can go to experience the traditional Christmas season, since many malls and stores barely decorate or play music anymore. You can see how much demand there is to experience this tradition. You would think the retailers would be smarter, especially at the time of year when they stand to make the most money.

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      • #4
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        Thanks for the update.

        It is a shame the GAC's are so over used. They are a great help for those who need them and make a visit much more enjoyable when they are necessary. Hopefully DCA can figure out a fair and equitable method of distributing them. We were with friends last years whose son has a disability and just getting him up to the lines was challenging enough at times. If we had to wait 45 minutes in line, the stress could have been unbearable.


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            love how Al always refers to Orlando as the borg... nameless.. faceless.. but responsible for total destruction.

            Let's face it.. how many layers are there really between the DLR President role and the head of P&R? If George K were to fight this, he wouldn't be swamped in people who couldn't really make an authorative decision. How come he can't take this right to Tom Staggs?

            I know bOrgLando is Al's favorite scapegoat.. but I find it hard to believe Anaheim's execs couldn't go right to the boss over this if they wanted to.
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              Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
              love how Al always refers to Orlando as the borg... nameless.. faceless.. but responsible for total destruction.

              Let's face it.. how many layers are there really between the DLR President role and the head of P&R? If George K were to fight this, he wouldn't be swamped in people who couldn't really make an authorative decision. How come he can't take this right to Tom Staggs?

              I know bOrgLando is Al's favorite scapegoat.. but I find it hard to believe Anaheim's execs couldn't go right to the boss over this if they wanted to.
              I totally agree. It makes me believe that the Anaheim execs agree...
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                I think the suits need to really look at who buys the tickets to the Halloween events vs Candlelight events this year. For me, and granted, I'm not a local - but I am a premium AP holder - when we have gone as a family over Halloweentime, I've always bought tickets for that. I have kids and it is fun to see characters in special costumes and for my kids to wear their costumes an additional time other than school party and Halloween proper. When I go by myself in October, I don't bother. When the family has planned months in advance to be at Disneyland and it's over Candlelight weekend, we do our best to plan the day to avoid the area. Yes, we watch the parade and enjoy the fireworks and snow on Main Street but would I pay extra for that? No.

                The holidays at Disneyland are beautiful and magical with all the decorations and I can see that without paying extra for an evening event. The snow on Main Street would be the hardest thing to miss out on, really.
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                  Wasnt aware that the GAC was such widly abused. Interesting stuff
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                  • #10
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                    The choirs at Candelight at WDW are made of up kids that practice for months and save up money to bring their school choir to WDW. There must be hundreds of choirs in CA that would love to do the same thing at DL.

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                      Originally posted by SueinSac View Post
                      The choirs at Candelight at WDW are made of up kids that practice for months and save up money to bring their school choir to WDW. There must be hundreds of choirs in CA that would love to do the same thing at DL.
                      I'm sure there might be.... if they had been given months notice so they could select music, have it approved by Disney, do the rehearsals.... etc etc etc... Mac Daddy, who teaches music at Mt. Sac detailed some of the issues with such a short notice for local choir groups in another thread recently.




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                      • #12
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                        This is all so depressing. It just really saddens me what the resort is coming to

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                        • #13
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                          I really don't think TDA can get away with not paying the choir members if they're expecting them to perform (hopefully) twenty times.Tickets would not be enough.
                          Oo-de-lally!

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                            The new park addition to the east of Main Street sounds good,
                            though it will erase an area that's special to me. When I was backstage there
                            in the early 80s I saw Snow White using her break to drink coffee and smoke.

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                              The GAC abuse is really a problem. I understand that there are many legitimate visitors you need some accommodation so that they can enjoy certain attractions but getting to enjoy that attraction any faster than another guest is just wrong. If stand by for RSR is 120 minutes, the GAC guest shouldn't be able to ride any sooner than 120 minutes. Just help them with their need by not requiring them to wait in a crowded line.
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                                Regarding the NextGen Fastpass system:
                                I seem to recall that when Fastpasses first came out they really adhered to guest only coming back during the time specified (i.e. 4:05 t0 5;05 PM), but over the years they pretty much ignored that and allowed you to come back anytime after the entry time. Now it seems soon that rule will be enforced once again. But how will the NextGen system factor in when a ride breaks down? Will anyone who has a Fastpass that was valid during the breakdown time still be able to come back anytime after that ride reopens? And will the NextGen system eventually allow you to get multiple Fastpasses at one time since it would seem the whole system will be managed better? To me that was always a failure of the current system. Another hope would be to have a few centralized distribution points rather than having to run over with your group (or their tickets) to get a Fastpass at one particular ride.

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                                  NextGen in Anaheim will be a joke.

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                                    My best friend and his fiance (legally disabled) went to DL a few months ago and really used the GAC to it's fullest potential, bringing in their entire group of guests onto the ride. They boasted about how cool it was later but friend or not, I felt a little tweaked on behalf of everyone else who had to wait in line, fairly. Her disability was legit and not in question, but this business about bringing in everyone is something even the legit disabled customers have laughed about abusing by my experience.

                                    I'm glad this is a topic now because a few months ago when they were telling me how "cool" it was to get everyone to the front of the line, I realized that restricting this policy to just the disabled and one guest would probably resolve the issue and/or at least force some to really think about what their priority was. Staying together as a group or getting through the line fast with just one friend.

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                                      One correction: the employee Christmas party used to be just one night, this was prior to acquiring ABC, Disneyland Hotel, Disney Stores and the Queen Mary. The park was staffed by management from the park and from WED and the Studio. When the population of Disney employees on the west coast became to large they were forced to the two night party and the management was off the hook.

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                                      • #20
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                                        It seems like someone really dislikes WDW and thinks that DLR is vastly superior to it, as if WDW is nothing compared to DL.

                                        I find the alleyway idea to be very clever and would love to see it happen but haven't these rumors been going around forever? Is Al Lutz turning into the next Jim Hill?

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