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Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Island?

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  • Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Island?



    Marvel And Disney Set Date To Finalize Merger

  • sunrider
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    um first off bird man isnt marvel hes a hannah barbera product,

    there are still some marvel properties that could be used by disney that could work out well for them....heres a short list

    1. alpha flight
    2. Kazar
    3.werewolf by night
    4she hulk
    5 dr strange
    not to mention they could run any existing animated super hero series on disney xd and maybe get the right to redo others..look how many times spiderman has been redone as well as the xmen, i think animationis the way disney should go with all of marvel...

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  • Ride Warrior
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Baloo View Post
    If remember correctly the contract that universal has with Marvel only allows them to use certain characters for theme park use and only in the state of Florida and other international parks. the contract in California is no longer valid so Disney could very well use the characters in Anaheim. So if they wanted to they could use it in DCA maybe hollywood backlot or the possibility of a new land in a possible third gate.



    Disney can not force or cancell the contract unless they find a loophole but they could buy off the contract and pay universal. This would only happen if they think that they could generate more money off the characters over the cost of the contract. Now if i remember correctly the contract that universal has with Marvel only allows them to use the characters already represented withint he park. If and when they consider doing major alterations with the attractions they will have to renegotaite with Marvel/Disney. the only way they could add any new attraction is if they a;ready had predetermined ideas in the design phase. This goes for attractions, retail and eateieres with Marvel themes of the characters they do use.
    I believe their current contract expires in 2012 which by then they would have to renegotiate a new contract with Disney. At that point Disney could play hardball and charge prime rates forcing universal to abondoned some concepts if they feel that the price is too high. This already happened at universal hollywood where contracts for walk around characters were not renewed
    Iwould opt for a new land at the coming third theme park at Dineyland Resort. 2012 seems to me to be the perfect year for Disney to seize control of universal's marvel contracts. With some hopefully good economic news, Disney should be opening Cars Land then, and getting ready to begin DCA Phase II... plus ... hopefully, the long officially announce plans for the long awaited theme park 3.

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  • Ride Warrior
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Aladdin View Post
    I think there is a similar type named character. The evil villain in The Princess and the Frog, isn't his name Dr Vaseline?
    Yeah! That's it. It helps him to keep his head stuck up his... well.. um.. you know. :blush:

    Originally posted by Aladdin View Post
    Dr Vasoline

    Dr Valvoline

    Dr Vascilate

    Dr Vah-silly

    it was a joke Dr Vasoline (in response to the protologist comment )
    :lmao: I'm in a rolling brown-out of laughter!

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  • Ride Warrior
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    Originally posted by Lady Stardust View Post
    Um excuse me, and what does that make Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law? Chopped livva?

    Anyway, as someone who likes both Disney AND Marvel (crazy, right?), I'm kind of disappointed that they will not be able to have any Marvel stuff at the World. I was really looking forward to meet 'n' greets with Spiderman and the Fantastic Four in the Streets of America.
    Harvey Birdman would make for a wonderful (not to mention hilarious) theme park attraction. Disney should include him in any marvel land that it might create. :thumbup:

    WDW will likely have Marvel characters eventually. In the meantime, hope you will be able to come to DL... should they appear there in the near future.

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  • Aladdin
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Baloo View Post
    i believe its "Dr Facilier" or "the Shadow"
    Dr Vasoline

    Dr Valvoline

    Dr Vascilate

    Dr Vah-silly

    it was a joke Dr Vasoline (in response to the protologist comment )

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  • Baloo
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Aladdin View Post
    I think there is a similar type named character. The evil villain in The Princess and the Frog, isn't his name Dr Vaseline?
    i believe its "Dr Facilier" or "the Shadow"

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  • Baloo
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    Then, we will have to hope that Disney has the freedom to make it's own movies and/or theme park rides that are based on popular Marvel characters... regardless of whether other companies are licensed to use the same intellectual properties.

    MArvel has contracts with certain movie studios that can not be stopped. So Disney can not use characters like Spiderman for their own versions of movies until the contracts between Marvel and other studios are done.

    I believe those studios cantracts allows them to do only a certain amount of movies based on certain characters because of this they need to pick the correct frnachise to exploit for the rest of their contracts.


    As for the Marvel park, i am not sure what kind of contract Marvel has but this could very well be the way Disney enters the market in that part of the world. Someone else builds the park and Disney will cash in on revenue from royalties and at the smae time have control of what gets put in a park with a name they own.

    SInce the park is not built yet we might even see some changes and the nick part of the park might dissapear and instead Disney could push for something else that is not owned by a rival media company
    Last edited by Baloo; 12-12-2009, 09:56 PM.

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  • Baloo
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post

    Now that it appears inevidable that Marvel shareholders will move to approve the Disney aquisition the last day of 2009, does this mean that Disney will ring in the new year with plans to force Universal to drop it's Marvel character based IOA attractions and retheme all of Marvel Super Hero Island? Seems to me this could be a very reall possibility once the Universal's contracts with Marvel run out.

    According to commicbookmovie.com, "Marvel’s characters are also currently tied to Universal Studios’ theme parks, which means it would probably be a long time before we see Spider-Man at Disneyland — or anything as cool as the recently released concept art for a Marvel theme park in Dubai." Still, I doubt that Disney is blindly purchasing Marvel if movie and theme park ties with other companies would inhibit/prohibit it from making movies and rides based on major charaters for many years to come.

    If remember correctly the contract that universal has with Marvel only allows them to use certain characters for theme park use and only in the state of Florida and other international parks. the contract in California is no longer valid so Disney could very well use the characters in Anaheim. So if they wanted to they could use it in DCA maybe hollywood backlot or the possibility of a new land in a possible third gate.

    Originally posted by JtnOrl View Post
    Universal's contracts with Marvel don't expire anytime soon. Disney can't "force" anything, as the contracts are binding.
    Disney can not force or cancell the contract unless they find a loophole but they could buy off the contract and pay universal. This would only happen if they think that they could generate more money off the characters over the cost of the contract. Now if i remember correctly the contract that universal has with Marvel only allows them to use the characters already represented withint he park. If and when they consider doing major alterations with the attractions they will have to renegotaite with Marvel/Disney. the only way they could add any new attraction is if they a;ready had predetermined ideas in the design phase. This goes for attractions, retail and eateieres with Marvel themes of the characters they do use.
    I believe their current contract expires in 2012 which by then they would have to renegotiate a new contract with Disney. At that point Disney could play hardball and charge prime rates forcing universal to abondoned some concepts if they feel that the price is too high. This already happened at universal hollywood where contracts for walk around characters were not renewed
    Last edited by Baloo; 12-12-2009, 09:35 PM.

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  • Aladdin
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    You just gave me an idea, Wrassler. A lawyer superhero! Let's see...we'll call him "The Prosecuter". Yes! That's even better than my last idea... "The Proctologist". )
    I think there is a similar type named character. The evil villain in The Princess and the Frog, isn't his name Dr Vaseline?

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  • Lady Stardust
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    Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    You just gave me an idea, Wrassler. A lawyer superhero! Let's see...we'll call him "The Prosecuter". Yes! That's even better than my last idea... "The Proctologist". )
    Um excuse me, and what does that make Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law? Chopped livva?

    Anyway, as someone who likes both Disney AND Marvel (crazy, right?), I'm kind of disappointed that they will not be able to have any Marvel stuff at the World. I was really looking forward to meet 'n' greets with Spiderman and the Fantastic Four in the Streets of America.

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  • Ride Warrior
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Disney Wrassler View Post
    All this legal talk...GAH!!! :lol:.
    You just gave me an idea, Wrassler. A lawyer superhero! Let's see...we'll call him "The Prosecuter". Yes! That's even better than my last idea... "The Proctologist". )

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  • Ride Warrior
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    Originally posted by JtnOrl View Post
    Universal's park rights are exclusive on the east coast, so they can't do anything in WDW. Maybe elsewhere. As for movies, Disney can make movies based on Marvel characters, but not ones based on characters that already spoken for by other studios. For example, Spider-Man's movie rights are owned by Sony and X-Men's are owned by Fox. Unfortunately for Disney, practically all of Marvel's popular characters are spoken for.
    Well then, it looks like Disneyland Resort on the West Coast, Tokyo Disneyland Resort, HKDL and DRP will be the current benefactors of any imagineered new attractions.

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  • Disney Wrassler
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    All this legal talk...GAH!!! :lol:.

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  • JtnOrl
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    Re: Disney/Marvel Merger 2B Finalized Dec 31st... What Of IOA's Marvel Super Hero Isl

    Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    Then, we will have to hope that Disney has the freedom to make it's own movies and/or theme park rides that are based on popular Marvel characters... regardless of whether other companies are licensed to use the same intellectual properties.
    Universal's park rights are exclusive on the east coast, so they can't do anything in WDW. Maybe elsewhere. As for movies, Disney can make movies based on Marvel characters, but not ones based on characters that already spoken for by other studios. For example, Spider-Man's movie rights are owned by Sony and X-Men's are owned by Fox. Unfortunately for Disney, practically all of Marvel's popular characters are spoken for.

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