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  • Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

    Hey! My thread title's alliterated :lol: .

    Okay, now onto the topic. I have heard awhile back that Walt Disney did not like Donald Duck.

    Do you know if that is true? If it is true, do you know why he didn't like Donald?
    Last edited by Disney Wrassler; 02-10-2007, 07:21 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

    I think the main problem wasn't that he disliked the duck, it's more that the public liked him a bit too much and was pushing Mickey out of popularity.
    -Tim

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    • #3
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      Ooohhh. Good point .

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      • #4
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        Ick, I don't like Donald very much.
        Good morning, son
        In twenty years from now
        Maybe we'll both sit down and have a few beers
        And I can tell you 'bout today
        And how I picked you up and everything changed
        It was pain
        Sunny days and rain
        I knew you'd feel the same things...


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        • #5
          Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

          The book, Walt Disney, Triumph of the American Imagination talks about him disliking Goofy, but never mentions a dislike of Donald. Now it does say that after Snow White, Walt was not as interested in the shorts anymore, but made them mostly because he had contracts to make them.

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          • #6
            Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

            I've heard too many extremely positive tape recordings of Walt talking about Donald...and also talking about Clarence "Ducky" Nash...to believe he didn't like the Donald character.

            Not to mention all those wonderful "Wonderful World of Color" live action/animation intros with Walt* and Donald.

            *Trivia on all those Donald/Walt segments: The close-up shots of Walt's hands were actually the hands of Disney Legend Bill Justice...who borrowed and wore Walt's ring for those close-up shots.

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            • #7
              Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

              it's more that the public liked him a bit too much and was pushing Mickey out of popularity.
              like stitch is doing now!
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              • #8
                Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                it's Mickey who doesn't like Donald - Mickey runs the place, and he definitely does all he can to push Donald to the back ground.

                Why? he's jealous becaue Donald's HUGE!! More than the rodent ever will be.
                a friend of Walt.

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                • #9
                  Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                  Well it seems to me now ... as a Donald lover ... that Donald is the least represented out of the "Fab Five" ... and maybe Pluto.

                  You've obviously got Mickey and Minnie at the top (as it should be). Goofy is also EVERYWHERE. Then you've got characters like the Pooh characters and Stitch and Buzz that have kind of taken over.

                  Go and try to find a sweat shirt, shirt, sticker, anything with JUST Donald on it. You won't find it, at least at Disneyland. At WDW Kristi found me ALOT of cool Donald exclusive stuff that you just can't find here.

                  Which sucks.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                    Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
                    Well it seems to me now ... as a Donald lover ... that Donald is the least represented out of the "Fab Five" ... and maybe Pluto.

                    You've obviously got Mickey and Minnie at the top (as it should be). Goofy is also EVERYWHERE. Then you've got characters like the Pooh characters and Stitch and Buzz that have kind of taken over.

                    Go and try to find a sweat shirt, shirt, sticker, anything with JUST Donald on it. You won't find it, at least at Disneyland. At WDW Kristi found me ALOT of cool Donald exclusive stuff that you just can't find here.

                    Which sucks.
                    I agree. I love Donald and finding Donald stuff is nearly impossible.
                    But, hey, if Disney wants to save me a few bucks heck I'm cool with that.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                      Donald is among my favorites. Actually, all the ducks are.

                      *Proud owner of a gold Scrooge McDuck pocket watch!*
                      -Tim

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                      • #12
                        Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                        Walt Disney liked Donald because he could be everything Mickey wasn't--hot-tempered, vain, irascible and pompous--and that opened a floodgate of potential new storylines and scenarios. As Donald was being established as a major character, the well was already running dry on Mickey. Certainly, Mickey was still extremely popular with the public, but the Disney Studio was running out of story ideas for him, basically because he was too nice. Animators were limited with what they could do with Mickey. They couldn't put him in the antagonistic roles that Donald was born to play.

                        It's interesting to see how Mickey evolved as a character. In his very early cartoons (Galloping Gaucho, Plane Crazy, even Steamboat Willie) he was more of a prankster and a bit of a scoundrel. As his popularity took off, however, he became more of an everyman and less prone to questionable behavior, because that's what the public wanted.

                        Melonballer, you're correct in pointing out Disney's disdain for Goofy. Neal Gabler doesn't really expound on it in his book, but he has said that Disney probably regarded the slapstick nature of the Goofy cartoons as a throwback to the early days of Alice, Oswald and the first Mickey shorts--a style of animation that Disney had long since moved away from. Walt was never one to repeat himself. "You can't top pigs with pigs" was his famous philosophy. Also, by the time Goofy was reaching his peak in popularity during the late '40's and early '50's, Disney regarded short cartoons in general as "busy work" for his animators, something to keep them occupied between more ambitious projects. So, maybe it wasn't that he disliked Goofy so much as he was indifferent to him because Disney had bigger fish to fry.
                        Last edited by disneytim; 02-11-2007, 09:40 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Did Walt Disney Dislike Donald Duck?

                          Originally posted by FrumiousBoojum View Post
                          Donald is among my favorites. Actually, all the ducks are.

                          *Proud owner of a gold Scrooge McDuck pocket watch!*
                          I love Scrooge too! I recommend that you read Don Rosa's "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" .

                          This stuff about Walt and Goofy is interesting .

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