POTC2: Dead Man's Chest

[Darkbeer]

Dick Cook last night (1/31) announced the official title for the movie at the 2005 Investors conference.

[Rainfully]

Properly worried ye be, says I.

Can it really live up to the first?

[Socapex]

No. It's gonna suck like all Disney Sequals

[PirateMunkee]

No. It's gonna suck like all Disney Sequals

Not if you have Kieth Richards signed on to play Capt. Jack's Father (Who Johnny Depp says he based his character portrayal on) and Johnny Depp playing the Character that he said in an interview was his all time favorite character to play and if he got no other parts except just to play Jack Sparrow in sequels...He would die happy.

Not to mention Jerry Bruckhiemer!!!! This movie is going to so rule and I personally predict it would be sooooo much better than the original. Now if Disney would let it be rated ARRRRRR........

[Socapex]

Not to mention Jerry Bruckhiemer!!!!

Exactly why it will suck. The only good thing that man did was Pirates, and I have little to no faith that he will succeed with this project. He has destroyed the television drama with CSI, Without a Trace, and those other horrible crime shows. Pirates is the the only movie that he produced that was remotley entertaining.

And as for Keith Richards, I wouldn't be suprised if the role is only a short cameo. Nothing to get hyped up about.

[Bacon]

Good to see everyone's got an open mind and not prejudging anything.

This isn't just some "Disney Sequel." Yes, their straight-to-video animated sequels suck harder than the sink hole under the Matterhorn. But that's because they are given no budget, don't use the original creators, and are purposely put out on the cheap to maximize profit. POTC2 involves the same people as the first, has been given a budget, and is being released in theaters, not straight to video. It's an entirely different beast, and I'm not going to pass judgement until I see it.

[PirateMunkee]

Exactly why it will suck. The only good thing that man did was Pirates, and I have little to no faith that he will succeed with this project. He has destroyed the television drama with CSI, Without a Trace, and those other horrible crime shows. Pirates is the the only movie that he produced that was remotley entertaining.

And as for Keith Richards, I wouldn't be suprised if the role is only a short cameo. Nothing to get hyped up about.

I will agree that he is destroying my all-time favorite show CSI: Las Vegas by breaking up the team like that but the shows still are pretty cool.

[Rainfully]

If Keith Richards is playing Jack's father, that could be really fun and interesting... even if it is just a cameo! I didn't even know about that.

[The Mad Hatter]

No. It's gonna suck like all Disney Sequals

What?! You mean you didn't like 'Aladdin 8: Jafar Visits New York'???

[Tech_Disney]

i liked Aladdin 8 a lot better than Snow White 47: The Dwarves' Revenge

[figment1986]

but that was better than stitch's great escape.. hehe

If my meory serves me correct.... arn't the 2 sequels being filmed at once to "save" money.... Hopefully these went towards the script....

[mamabot]

Nothing is worse the The Princess Stories Series. Biggest hunk of junk ever to waste resources on making. Blech!

[Bacon]

but that was better than stitch's great escape.. hehe

If my meory serves me correct.... arn't the 2 sequels being filmed at once to "save" money.... Hopefully these went towards the script....

Well, they shot all 3 Lord of the Rings films at once. I think it's a better model. Do it all at once, keep everyone involved, and you get a more cohesive, consistent result. So, if the second one's good, odds are the third one will be too since it was all part of the same process.

[Socapex]

I will agree that he is destroying my all-time favorite show CSI: Las Vegas by breaking up the team like that but the shows still are pretty cool.

I wasn't talking about the breaking up the team thing. That man relies on fancy (yet tacky) cinematography, flashing lights, unnessasary background music that supposedly adds to the mood, pointless sub plots, long instrumental sequences of "moving moments" featuring characers which werer introduced to us 30 mins ago to replace what is ultimately the most important aspect of drama: LANGUAGE!

His shows have little to no content. All tacky disgusting spectacle that is completely inapropriate for the situations. Maybe if he were to develop chartacter through DIALOUGE and WORDS his shows would be better.

[PirateMunkee]

I wasn't talking about the breaking up the team thing. That man relies on fancy (yet tacky) cinematography, flashing lights, unnessasary background music that supposedly adds to the mood, pointless sub plots, long instrumental sequences of "moving moments" featuring characers which werer introduced to us 30 mins ago to replace what is ultimately the most important aspect of drama: LANGUAGE!

His shows have little to no content. All tacky disgusting spectacle that is completely inapropriate for the situations. Maybe if he were to develop chartacter through DIALOUGE and WORDS his shows would be better.

Ok...so your point is.........?

I do admit the show was awesome in the beginning when Grissom actually had a sense of humor but lately..... It does lack I have to admit

[Tech_Disney]

the show was never good. and if you had actually read Socapex's post, you would see quite clearly that his point is (and I quote) "His shows have little to no content."

[PirateMunkee]

the show was never good. and if you had actually read Socapex's post, you would see quite clearly that his point is (and I quote) "His shows have little to no content."

Uh Tech....It was a joke about the "Point". He made quite a few valid points on why he doesn't like the show. I made the joke because he made alot of points. Other than that, he's entitled to his opinion. CSI might be mindless junk to him but it's mindless junk I'm addicted too. I personally like Jerry Bruckheimer. Sure his stuff isn't thought provoking but it sure is just plain fun to watch.

[PirateMunkee]

Oh yeah, I wasn't being rude or trying to start a argument, I like cracking jokes. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinions about things and they don't have to agree with mine, besides, You can always learn a thing or two from someone who doesn't have the same opinion as you.

[Tech_Disney]

if it was a joke, than it was by far one of the worst jokes i have ever heard in my entire life.

[Gemini Cricket]

Good to see everyone's got an open mind and not prejudging anything.

I think you bring up a lot of good points. However, this film has some things already against it.

One, it's a sequel. Besides a few gems, like 'Empire', 'Shrek 2' and 'Godfather 2' etc, sequels usually don't live up to the expectations of fans who have seen the first and had time to watch it over and over and analyze it. (Sometimes fans consider blockbuster hits even more that the creators do or did.)

Two, it's a Disney sequel. How many Disney sequels, theatrically released or straight to DVD, have been good? None.

Three, Jerry Bruckheimer is hit and miss. Hits such as POTC, the CSI series, 'Top Gun' and others were/are resounding successes but he's also given up 'Pearl Harbor', 'King Arthur' and 'Kangaroo Jack'. Also, the sequels that he's helmed suck: 'Beverly Hills Cop 2" and "Bad Boys 2". Not to mention he gave us 'National Treasure' which I think is a complete rip off of 'The Da Vinci Code'.

Four, has Disney come out with anything remotely interesting on their own in the past couple of years? Without the aid of Pixar and Miramax, Disney isn't all that groundbreaking and creative as they used to be. Their excessive penny pinching and half assed attempts at creating theme parks is well known in the industry. I don't think the Walt Disney Company is such a big player any more. I think Dreamworks and Pixar will eventually "out Disney" the Walt Disney Company and come up with more entertaining movies and attractions for us to enjoy.

I think everyone's hesitation about this flick is justified. If people hand you bags of garbage long enough, you'll eventually only expect that from them. They may surprise you from time to time, but you'll still consider them garbage merchants.