Reputation comments

[ScottG]

I see now that I can no longer write in a comment when I give someone reputation. I now have to pic comments from a set list.
Did everyone lose this freedom or is it just me?

[Monorail Man]

Re: Reputation comments

I see now that I can no longer write in a comment when I give someone reputation. I now have to pic comments from a set list.
Did everyone lose this freedom or is it just me?

This is correct. We're still in the process of making some adjustments with rep, expect an announcement soon.

[ScottG]

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That's a shame.
I ended up picking one that din't fit what I wanted to give rep for so it probably won't make a lot of sense to the recipient.

[alphabassetgrrl]

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Bummer. I used to write my own comments a lot. Picking from a list? Meh.

[ScottG]

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I think I've given up on Rep.

[RegionsBeyond]

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An announcement and further tweaks to the system are still coming: this is the first day of implementation after all Staff is still getting used to it and taking notes, but rest assured, the comments being included for positive posts is still on our agenda to discuss as of this moment.

[JMazz]

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hmmmm.
I saw that it changed, and seems ok so far, but when I went to give a poz rep point, i chose my answer and hit the add button... a popup came on the screen telling me that i need to indicate a reason. I thought maybe I didn't do it right! After about a dozen tries in the past 24hrs or so, it must still not be functional for everyone just yet??? I can see it and use it, but it wont take my dropdown choices... I like the new version, I just want it to work!

[penguinsoda]

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That's a shame.
I ended up picking one that din't fit what I wanted to give rep for so it probably won't make a lot of sense to the recipient.

Unfortunately like many things in life... the few mess it up for the many. We just had way to many people abusing the system and using it for "liking" as on FaceBook.

I even recently saw the "reason" for leaving a comment that said...

"Oh you're cute."

:botox: Really? That is not one of the criteria for leaving positive rep. And hence, the drop down menu to try to stem some of the abuse and force people to actually give rep for a real reason... just just use it for a like button.

Besides, like I stated somewhere else, there is no way we can ever make 100% of every single member happy no matter what we do. Therefore we do the best we can, according to a consensus between the staff and owners of the site, with input as much as we can from the community.

[sir clinksalot]

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As Penguinsoda, there was abuse on both sides of the rep issue. Hopefully with the new options we will be able to alleviate some of the issues with people giving improper positive and especially negative rep.

If you'd like to leave a personal note for positive rep or even just tell somebody you appreciate their postings you do have the option to write a visitor message on their profile.

[Barbaraann]

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I think the drop down choices are sufficient as they appear now. I am sure MiceChatters may in the near future come up with some additional ideas, however.

[1Disneylandfan]

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If you'd like to leave a personal note for positive rep or even just tell somebody you appreciate their postings you do have the option to write a visitor message on their profile.

Good idea about leaving the visitor message. Then you can personalize a message for that person

[StevenW]

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I had my frustrations with Reputations. Sometimes I can see who gave me a good or bad rating. Most times, I cannot. Sometimes I get a bad rating, not because I was abusive, but because they didn't like what I said.

To prevent reputation abuse, you should time when an reputation can no longer be given. I gotten bad reputation scores well after posting like 3 days and beyond. It is frustrating to get a bad rating especially after a thread has gone dead and I forgotten about what I posted.

[Barbaraann]

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Not everyone reads MiceChat daily, and it is not unusual for threads to appear, lay dormant, and reappear.

It does seem that one of the biggest problems has always been that a person does not agree with another person's opinion. Perhaps the new drop down menus will help with that misconception.

[jcruise86]

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How about "Eloquent post!" as an option? It's so nice to read opinions that are well written, even if I disagree with them.

[flynnibus]

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Unfortunately like many things in life... the few mess it up for the many. We just had way to many people abusing the system and using it for "liking" as on FaceBook.

I even recently saw the "reason" for leaving a comment that said...

"Oh you're cute."

:botox: Really? That is not one of the criteria for leaving positive rep. And hence, the drop down menu to try to stem some of the abuse and force people to actually give rep for a real reason... just just use it for a like button.

This drop down system only makes it more impossible for you to screen and clean up bad rep comments.

The 'oh your cute' comment now gets masked as 'contributes to the community' or something. How are you going to judge that now? At least the 'oh your cute' is obvious it's out of line and should be scrubbed. Now, the ONLY types of comments that are allowed are all 'within the rules'. So how do you decide if a user is leaving rep improperly?

You've just made it infinitely harder to decipher the user's actual intentions.

You've cleaned up comments - but made it impossible to police.

And unless the status comes back - its a system that will only be used to neg rep making it even more volatile for people. Without positive reps, negative reps become all more powerful. Without incentive for people to leave good comments, as well as bad - the system becomes skewed to leaving only bad comments (motivation..).

The last incarnation of the system was pretty good (sans no viewing of neg comments) - this looks like a train wreck unless you have some magic jelly beans you will pull out here shortly.

[penguinsoda]

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If members only have specific choice to pick from, maybe they will think a bit more about marking a post and will be more inclined to mark it if it meets the criteria stated, and not just because they "like" a post or something along those lines.

People are so Facebooked now days that they think everything works the same way. From what we've been seeing so far the new system is working pretty well. We can still see the comments, still see what rep is attached to those comments, and we can still for the most part determine if the rep was given appropriately or not. Sure its not perfect but its working pretty well so far for us. As time goes buy there may be other tweaks to the system, just as there has been for the last 7 years. MiceChat, like Disneyland will never be completed as long as there is imagination in the world.

[ghosty4]

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There should be a "LIKE" option, and a "REPORT" option with a reason. That's it. None of this "Helpful" "VERY HELPFUL" "Unhelpful" weighted classification. If a person likes something someone else posted, who cares WHY they liked it? If someone reports something and it's within the rules, nothing happens. If it's not, remove it! If a person spams the report button, ban THEM. If you liked something a person said, send them a message. Heck, send them one if you didn't! This is supposed to be a COMMUNITY of Disney fans, isn't it? The reputation system as it was seemed very negative overall. Not going to miss it! (And I was "Helpful" so it's not like I didn't like it because I was getting negatives!)

[Barbaraann]

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The Report Post button is still there, and MiceChatters need to use that to alert moderators to posts that contain issues that are definitely against MiceChat's general rule of conduct.

[dude4real]

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There should be a "LIKE" option, and a "REPORT" option with a reason. That's it. None of this "Helpful" "VERY HELPFUL" "Unhelpful" weighted classification. If a person likes something someone else posted, who cares WHY they liked it? If someone reports something and it's within the rules, nothing happens.

The reputation system as it was seemed very negative overall. Not going to miss it!

So true. Thanks for the great post!

[Barbaraann]

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Sometimes, I think the main problem here at MiceChat is getting the members to use the system. Whatever system is in place. Over the years we have had many different ones, and for a time no Reputation System was in place at all. The Report Post button has always been there, but I believe many members have never used it, or are not even aware what it is, and where it is, and when they should use it.

The Reputation System has, in many of it's forms, called attention to itself. In doing that people used it, at first out of curiosity, and perhaps later with the correct knowledge about it.