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  • #41
    Re: Reputation comments

    We find ourselves in a complex world.

    From the time when MiceChat was first created, the tone of the internet has changed. Things like the reputation system are essential tools for us to be able to prevent the harsh, often hateful or violent tone that has developed on other discussion sites or any public sites such as Youtube. We have tried many different incarnations of the reputation system, including not having one at all and the current set up works far better than any other set up.

    As MiceChat and the internet in general has extended its reach, anyone is now not only welcome, but easily able to find our site and take part in our discussions. Before, only those people much more interested Disneyland would have likely found the site and that might explain the shift that many long time members have noticed.

    If anyone has any ideas how we could help promote friendly, fun discussion about all things Disneyland, we are always accepting ideas. We really do want to have the best Disney website on the internet. However, we must also respect the views of anyone who signs in and we will not censor anybody's viewpoints as long as they adhere to our terms of use. It is hard to balance positive and welcoming to anyone, and I hope that with everyone's help, we can get continue to get better and better.



    To directly address the thread, the reputation comment list was essential. While everyone here was likely using the comments right, as a moderator, I was able to see all of the comments people were leaving and the large majority of comments were either gibberish, lies, or just things like "I liked what you have to say" or even things like "Your an idiot."

    Now that everyone can see the comments left for them whether positive or negative, it is very easy to see if what was said about your post is valid or not. You can then make use of the "report reputation" button in any cases where you feel that there is abuse. Similarly, we can also see exactly what was posted and the reasoning that someone reported it. It is much easier for us to judge whether the reputation was abusive or not and take action.
    Last edited by Trevor; 08-12-2012, 12:39 PM.

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    • #42
      Re: Reputation comments

      MiceChat has about 50,000 members. I find that amazing. It is a revolving door of members however, and presently about a hundred of us are here. I spend a lot of time here, because quite frankly, MiceChat feels like family. You can't force the magic, or twist someone's arm to have a good time. They either do, or they don't. I have always admired one thing, and that is the give and take that is present here. I have learned a lot since my very first day. One thing in particular is the ability to now laugh at myself. MiceChatters are passionate about their themeparks, but foremost I believe they need to learn to accept that everyone's opinion doesn't necessarily mirror their own.

      I have found that I am no-good at disciplining. Reputation is the discipling of it's membership. It's a thankless job because it needs to be done, but in doing so it sometimes steps on a person's toes or their innermost feelings.

      Because of the comings and goings of so many members, the system is constantly under stress. It reminds me of a schoolteacher, who starts out the first day of school with a certain group of mixed personalities. By the time the teacher has it all figured out, and the students are working together nicely, the year ends and the teacher has to start the entire process over.

      Easy solution? No way. Constantly trying? Yes, that's a given.
      BarbaraAnn

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      • #43
        Re: Reputation comments

        Originally posted by Druggas View Post
        Now, it seems like the majority want to come here for a b*tch session and complain about DL. Then they gang up on you if you have a different opinion.
        In fact, a casual scan of any week's worth of posts and threads will show just the opposite: the vast majority are positive or neutral (asking for or submitting information), and the vast majority of any "ganging up on" that is done is against those who post negative comments.


        Originally posted by Druggas View Post
        Since I've been here, in my humble opinion, the chat here is getting too PC.
        I disagree. A reading of the threads in the Litter Box (even the few pages remaining from the hundreds of threads that have been moved there), will show the kind of nastiness that uses "PC" and "free speech rights" as justification.


        Originally posted by Druggas View Post
        The "fun" of coming here was to feel happy and know that others here reveled in DL as much as you did.
        To me, the fun was in the interesting, thoughtful, intelligent and well written posts that were routinely submitted by many members who are no longer active -- and who are missed.
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        • #44
          Re: Reputation comments

          I used to love leaving rep for both reasons, there were people that were good for the site and people that weren't. Frankly now I don't care, it's sterile and PC. It feels like a polarized fansite, not a group of friends. I come here for information, not to check up with people I really care about. Sure there's still a lot of people I enjoy discussing Disneyland and other topics about, but it's not a site I crave going to.

          So, I'll still leave an occasional rep for those that are helpful and those that do great trip reports. I'll neg rep those that are trolling and trying to be incidiary. I try to be helpful and witty and find new people that are the same. But in the end, I don't care a whole lot which is sad to me. Such is life, things change for the good and bad.

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          • #45
            Re: Reputation comments

            I liked the old rep system, where I could leave a comment. I could also quickly leave a little comment for someone, something that *really* didn't need to be clogging up the thread.

            Now that I have to go send them an actual message, I am significantly less likely to do so. I haven't used the new rep system at all other than the one time to try it and see what I thought. Hate it. Like you say, it's sterile.

            So now my choice is to not give the feedback that I would like to give privately or to clog up the thread. I don't like either choice.
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            • #46
              Re: Reputation comments

              Originally posted by alphabassetgrrl View Post
              I liked the old rep system, where I could leave a comment. I could also quickly leave a little comment for someone, something that *really* didn't need to be clogging up the thread.

              Now that I have to go send them an actual message, I am significantly less likely to do so. I haven't used the new rep system at all other than the one time to try it and see what I thought. Hate it. Like you say, it's sterile.

              So now my choice is to not give the feedback that I would like to give privately or to clog up the thread. I don't like either choice.
              I suppose a lot of people feel this way. However, many are not vocal enough to state their opinion in such a thread like this.

              It takes time to determine whether something is working, and that amount of time has not passed by since the latest changes.

              Only the people who run this site can determine whether their goals have been met. Only the members can determine whether or not they feel that their opinions matter. Using the system, or not using the system is a personal choice. Too bad, that abuse of the system has taken away personal responses for MiceChat's members.
              BarbaraAnn

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              • #47
                Re: Reputation comments

                Originally posted by aashee View Post
                I used to love leaving rep for both reasons, there were people that were good for the site and people that weren't. Frankly now I don't care, it's sterile and PC. It feels like a polarized fansite, not a group of friends. I come here for information, not to check up with people I really care about. Sure there's still a lot of people I enjoy discussing Disneyland and other topics about, but it's not a site I crave going to.
                The clique that made up most of the DL Micechat locals back in 05-08 aren't active on the site anymore. I mean, I don't even recall sunday meet threads anymore.. I can certainly see how many would see that changing of the community as a negative. It's something that happens tho.. people lose interest, focus, life events, etc.

                Not sure what lead to most of those people moving on tho. I guess the site is less of a 'DL lifestyle' site now and more a DL news/activity site.

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                • #48
                  Re: Reputation comments

                  people come and go. Sometimes I'm on here, sometimes Facebook. I miss a lot of the "old crowd" but life moves on. After a while you notice the cyclical pattern of threads. A lot of discussions tend to repeat themselves, similar sides and all. It gets interesting when it's a new topic based on recent Disney events. As to the "feel" of Micechat, it sways between positive and negative depending on the topic at hand.

                  I continue to enjoy the ability to see negative rep. I've strayed a couple times, and those points are a reminder of what was said. The irony is that sometimes a comment was made in jest to an old friend, but the typed word doesn't convey the emotions.

                  Leaving a personal message is always easier then limiting a message to a pre-determined bubble. The problem I see is that a member might select a bubble as the "best fit" and a Mod may toss it thinking it "doesn't fit". At least with a personal message the intent was easy to determine.
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