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    Dustysage,

    I have been thinking about user rankings on Micechat as well as some other forum sites where I am a member, and I have two questions for you at the bottom of the post.

    I sent the following email to vBulletin after reading their online documentation and couldn't find the information I was looking for:

    "Hello, I am a user on several vBulletin sites, and have an idea that may be useful. I have thought a lot about user ranks and reputation when they are implemented on the various sites.

    It seems to me that user ranks that are based simply on the number of posts made to the discussion, and this tends to lead to uninformative posts. People may tend to simply post something like "LOL" to increase their rank. My idea would change the basis on which a user increases in rank.

    Instead of counting the number of posts as a basis for rank, I propose that rank be based on the number of replies that are made to a post. If you consider the tree view of a thread, the OP would not get any rank points for starting the thread, but for each response that the OP received on the thread. If a user did post a "LOL", the users likely would not respond to that branch of the thread tree as they would tend to respond to the OP or other valid responses. (An option could be to factor the number of rank points given to the OP by the responding user's reputation value.) This rank method rewards users for posting meaningful messages the aid the discussion.

    This method, I believe would a bit less biased toward the infrequent but
    useful poster. It complements the reputation already in place by reinforcing good discussion and discourages meaningless chatter.

    Obviously this proposal is major shift in rank points on vBulletin installs currently in place. Users with high ranking under the current system could see their rank plummet if installed. This would need to be an optional upgrade choice and not a replacement of the current ranking system.

    Thank you for your time."

    I was told in a response from vBulletin that site admins could setup ranking based on criteria other than number of posts.

    My 2 questions to you: 1) without disclosing private information, is it possible to set user rank in a way consistant with what I described in the email? 2) I am nothing but a user and do not run any forum site. Would this kind of ranking system actually work, here on MiceChat or other site?

    Sorry to bother you, but thanks for the information.

    conncr
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    Re: vBulletin user rankings

    Originally posted by Conncr View Post
    This method, I believe would a bit less biased toward the infrequent but
    useful poster. It complements the reputation already in place by reinforcing good discussion and discourages meaningless chatter.
    I think this thread covers how people feel about post counts here and excluding any type of post
    http://www.micechat.com/forums/showt...ean-47221.html

    'meaningless chatter' isn't discouraged...
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      Re: vBulletin user rankings

      Please understand that I am not unhappy with the current ranking system nor am I proposing a change. I am mostly curious if it could be done and what impact such a system could have.
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        Re: vBulletin user rankings

        There is lot that can be done.. I guess I'm just saying if you read that thread.. they aren't interested in making any changes
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          Re: vBulletin user rankings

          First and foremost: We absolutely love ideas, so keep them coming!

          Second, most of us believe that it's the content that makes a member part of a community, and not their post count. However, we have a system that 'rewards' post counts with little Diamonds. However, we see this just for fun. It's nothing more than the little trophy you get for playing in the Arcade.

          However, we have to realistically think, is there any system we could implement that would properly 'rank' our members? I don't think so. Any ranking on a formula, just tells you something, and not who or how active a member is. Friends and members are so much more than just a rank. The meets and events that we do help create pur community, and a person's posting styles and content help define our members.

          So, for now, the post-count based system is basically just for fun. We have our serious system already (reputation).

          Don't sweat it. However, we enjoy hearing ideas, and encourage you to keep telling us them.
          -Monorail Man

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            Re: vBulletin user rankings

            Thanks Monorail Man, but I am still wondering if a system like this is technically possible using a vBulletin system?
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              Re: vBulletin user rankings

              Originally posted by Conncr View Post
              Thanks Monorail Man, but I am still wondering if a system like this is technically possible using a vBulletin system?
              With some custom code, "... anything is possible".
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                Re: vBulletin user rankings

                Connr, I found your method a bit tedious. How about a simple rank on number of words in a post. Filter out the lols as not being in a dictionary, and the larger wordier posts would be ranked higher. An honest one word answer would count, but not as much as an explanation.
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                  Re: vBulletin user rankings

                  I had thought that using a method like this that a user could be rewarded for starting a good (popular) discussion, as well as contributing to one.
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                    Re: vBulletin user rankings

                    Ah, but you would be rewarded by your popularity. The better the post you start, the more people will flock to it and the greater your fame.

                    Of course a running count of total posts, might be an additional method of ranking.
                    Originally posted by lazyboy97O
                    How is a state religion bad, but state medicine good?
                    Originally posted by steamboatpete
                    Anyone who makes the decision to depend upon the government to take care of their basic needs has essentially doomed himself to a life of bitter disappointment.

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                    • #11
                      Re: vBulletin user rankings



                      Why do members need any kind of a "rank" to begin with? You want a rank? I'm member number 385... I was the 385 person to sign up on the site. Does that mean anything? Nope. But its a ranking of my "seniority" (not that it matters).

                      Post count? Yes, I have over 37,000 posts and that puts me in the number two spot count wise. Does that mean anything? Nope... just means I can't shut up and I have no life. (Seriously... if our post count was hidden I'd be the first to cheer).

                      Do we need a "ranking" system for our membership? Why? To what purpose? If I have a green card under my name, I'm an ok member, if I have a grey card I need to work a little harder contributing to the site and if I have a red card.... well I seriously need to work on my people skills most likely. Thats the closest thing we need to any kind of a ranking system for our members. Rankings can turn into nothing more than popularity contests, and every member is just as valuable as every other member on the site. We don't need to play favorites.

                      Besides, because of some of that "meaningless chatter" a lot of really great friendships have been formed between members, and really... thats what its all about.




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                      • #12
                        Re: vBulletin user rankings

                        Originally posted by penguinsoda View Post
                        Besides, because of some of that "meaningless chatter" a lot of really great friendships have been formed between members, and really... thats what its all about.
                        And on that perfect note, we are closing the discussion.
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