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  • D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

    The Buena Vista Street preview is starting now.

    Imagineers Coulter Winn, Ray Spencer and Lisa Girolami leading the presentation.

    Goal is to make a stronger emotional connection like at Disneyland's Main Street.
    Want to introduce more characters into DCA.

    Buena Vista Street will be divided into sections representing Los Angeles districts and towns, including Atwater village, Los Feliz area, etc.

    Carthay Circle Theater is offset so you could be at new fountain and not see the Disneyland train station from DCA hub

    Buena Vista Street is designed to tell the story of Walt. Research is showing more and more people don't realize Walt Disney was a real person, they think it's just a corporate identity. The Imagineers believe that it's important to have people know Walt was a person.

    Guest comfort big issue in BVS design. Lots of new shade trees going in.

    Landscape architects designing what curbs look like, which kinds of trees will be present, where they'll be placed, etc.

    BVS is idealized version of Los Angeles that never existed, except for Carthay and Pan Pacific.

    The two Red Cars will have different paint jobs. One Red Car will represent the 1915 style and the other will feature the later paint style. The Red Cars are modeled after real Red Cars.

    The Red Car Trolley wires will make a "visual cap" that keeps your eyes within the confines of the street, preventing you from looking outside of the area and to help create a completely immersive experience.

    Five architects are involved in BVS architecture/facade design. The use of different architects on the project is to help create a look that the street was built by different people at different times.

    The quality level, detailing has to be on-par with Main Streets found in other Disney parks.

    Architectural compression is being used on BVS to achieve intimacy and desired look and feel. It's important to have the "Disney scale."

    Thousands and thousands of hours of work have gone into BVS planning and design work to the achieve authenticity, detail, accuracy needed to make the space believable.

    Elias and Co. is flagship store on BVS, similar to Disneyland's Emporium. Elias and Co's facade is inspired by early Los Angeles department stores, but not any one in particular.

    BVS is amalgam of Los Angeles stores and buildings, but except for the Pan Pacific Auditorium and the Carthay Circle Theater, none of Buena Vista Street will be a recreation of anything specific found in Los Angeles, unlike the Hollywood Pictures Backlot facades

    Mortimer Market will be open-air market area selling fruit, drinks and other small items.

    Sunshine Plaza candy shop is moving and will be replaced by a jewelry store, as part of the Elias and Co. department store.

    The bakery is being expanded. Fiddler Fifer and Practical Cafe wil be ADA compliant.

    BVS interiors will be fully finished. All shops will be accessible via an interior "aisle"/corridor that will run through the shops, parallel to Buena Vista Street. This will be similar to how the shops are connected on Main Street, USA.

    Imagineers are working to create a lot of "transparency" for the shops. You'll be able to see through the shop windows into the stores, creating a greater sense of continuity from outside on Buena Vista Street to inside its shops and restaurants.

    Tile and glasswork will be authentic to 1920s Los Angeles.

    Architecture ornamentation will be heavily featured on Buena Vista Street. For example: Bears fighting over a plate with a beehive/honey will be above the doorway of the candy shop.

    Tile work in Clarabelle's Ice Cream Parlor will feature an ice cream motif. The Trolley Treats candy store's tile work evokes the look and colors of Necco wafer candies.

    Guests won't be bombarded with characters on Buena Vista Street, but the names of iconic Disney characters from Walt's early career will be present as shop and restaurant names. The character-inspired names work as tribute and nod to Walt Disney's past, but also work as a story element, suggesting that Walt Disney may have been inspired by the places he saw and went to in Los Angeles when creating his characters for his animated films.

    Many of the characters won't necessarily be visible/present because many weren't created yet when Walt arrived in Los Angeles.

    Big Rock Candy Mountain model will be on display at Trolley Treats. The model is based on attraction designed for an early Fantasyland attraction at Disneyland that would have been built where Storybook Land is now.

    Rock candy mountain will serve as a "metaphor" ... The model is not an exact replica of the Disneyland attraction concept. The model in Trolley Treats will feature some working trolleys on it.

    Imagineer Ray Spencer says that the largest oak tree that he has ever seen is being imported to Carthay Circle hub area. He says Buena Vista Street will be a "heads and tails difference" from what you experienced at DCA in 2001

    Department of Water and Power fountain in Pasadena served as inspiration for new hub fountain. Guests won't see fountain when the area opens for traffic between Condor Flats and Hollywood Pictures Backlot. The fountain will remain behind walls and won't be unveiled until the Buena Vista Street opening day ceremony in 2012.

    Carthay Circle Theater will be "home of high-end restaurant and lounge."

    New Parade route: Starting at Tower of Terror, down Hollywood Blvd, around Carthay and out to Paradise Pier

    Park area in northeast quadrant in hub will be park area featuring new Walt and Mickey statue.

    Walt and Mickey statue will have Walt and Mickey with suitcases, as though they've just arrived. Mickey is represented as Walt's muse. The new statue will be on ground with guests, not on a pedestal like at Disneyland. The reason it will be placed on the ground is because the story for Buena Vista Street is that Walt is coming to California to fulfil his dreams just like the rest of us. He's just one of us in 1920s Los Angeles, and anything is possible

    Last edited by MasterGracey; 08-21-2011, 01:20 AM. Reason: Edited for typos and to make quick live notes more complete for easier reading.

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    D23 Live: sneak peek of buena vista street

    Lisa Girolami, Ray Spencer and coulter Wynn have arrived and taken their seats on stage

    The idea behind redoing the entrance of the park is to try to make an emotional connection and a sense of place and time

    Layout of Buena Vista Street

    The trees were selected in order to provide comfort but to also enclose the theming. The palm trees that were planted before pulled the eye up and out. The new landscaping is designed to keep you involved in your surroundings.

    The old entrance

    The new hub is slightly off center in order to make looking back at Disneyland's main gates and train station non visible

    They have taken bits and pieces of a variety of historic architecture. They had a hard time fitting the existing buildings with facades that are true to disney scale

    Elias and co
    Inspiration was taken from early Los Angeles dept stores. This will serve as dca's emporium.

    They're now showing elevation studies of both the left and right hand sides of the street.

    All of the stores on buena vista street will be fully themed inside. They will also have visual
    connections from the exterior to the interior. This will include window displays.

    They kept mentioning that during development there was a color expert or queen, and a tile queen. Lisa then said , there are a lot of queens in imagineering.". After Lisa caught herself the room erupted in laughter.

    The Clarabells ice cream locations exterior color palette was umpired by a pack of necco wafers.

    They wanted to be careful not to include actual Disney character in the exterior ornamentation since they were mostly uninvented in 1920

    Trolley candy treats will feature an homage to an unmade attraction.
    There will be an 8'x5' big Rick candy mountain model with
    miniature trolleys working on it.

    They are importing massive, mature oak trees.

    The pump house for the fountain, that is adjacent to the carthay, will also serve as a trolley stop.

    The carthay circle theater will serve as a restaurant. It will have balconies that will be perfect to watch parades from

    The Walt and Mickey statue will be located in the small park that will be built in front of the current greetings from California building.

    They just showed maquettes of the new walt and Mickey statue.

    Keep refreshing. I am adding text as the presentation goes along.
    "All my life I've had one dream, to achieve my many goals.
    Homer Jay Simpson


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      Re: D23 Live: sneak peek of buena vista street

      I am so jealous of you guys xD


      • #4
        Re: D23 Live: sneak peek of buena vista street

        Will there be any specialuty shops ala Universal?


        • #5
          Yes. There will be candy and ice cream shops along with merchandise locations.
          "All my life I've had one dream, to achieve my many goals.
          Homer Jay Simpson


          • #6
            Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

            Meanwhile Disneyland is getting a princess meet n greet on Main Street lol ...see u at DCA in 2012!! cant wait!!


            • #7
              Maquette of Walt and Mickey statue unveiled. Statue represents an amalgam of Walt as a person through this period of his life.

              Maquette being moved downstairs to Parks and Resorts pavilion later today.

              "A Good Look at Buena Vista Street" has concluded.

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              • #8
                Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                Incredible!!!!!!!!! The detail, the theming, the heart that is going into this sounds amazing. If I hear one more complaint that BVS is a cheap, uninspired, re-plastering of old ideas, I'll scream! This is Disney at its finest. The story they've woven is classic and exactly what the park needs. 2012 can't get here fast enough. 4 stars, Disney.


                • #9
                  Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                  Thanks for posting this live! Even many of us at the Expo couldn't get into panels today!
                  "And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by" (John Masefield)


                  • #10
                    Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                    As much as I love how this statue is turning out, wouldn't it have been cooler/more appropriate to have oswald with Walt instead of Mickey?
                    Poor unfortunate Souls.


                    • #11
                      Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                      It'd be even more appropriate for Alice to appear instead of Mick or Oswald. But that might seem kinda pervy...some guy with a cardboard suitcase, traveling cross-country with a little girl.


                      • #12
                        Disney Parks Blog posted a photo of the new statue

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                        • #13
                          Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                          I got to see that an hour ago
                          It was absolutely interesting and the Imagineers did a great job with the presentartion
                          My Dad thought it wasn't going to be good and he ended up enjoying it


                          • #14
                            Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                            Originally posted by aracuanbird View Post
                            It'd be even more appropriate for Alice to appear instead of Mick or Oswald. But that might seem kinda pervy...some guy with a cardboard suitcase, traveling cross-country with a little girl.
                            It might have been more appropriate concidering it started his intrest in it all, But neither Oswald or Alice started Disney and many who do not know Walts history before Disney would not really know who either one is.
                            "Remember it all started with a mouse."
                            WE are the ones who keep Disney changing and alive WE are a part of disney


                            • #15
                              Re: D23 Live: A Good Look at Buena Vista Street

                              Am I the only one wanting a replica of the new statue?

                              I'm serious, looks fantastic.


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