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  • Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

    **Disclaimer** This is a controversial subject and will be moved to the debate lounge if necessary!!!

    Did anybody catch the performance on the AMA's the other night? It was the only thing I saw and I thought it was great. I didn't particularly care for the song, but I LOVED the "shock" of it, although I wasn't shocked at all.

    Already Good Morning America has cancelled his concert because of this. IMO, this is 100% discrimination. So he kissed a guy. Uhm, Madonna, Brittney and Christina were making out YEARS ago and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.

    Is it because it was 2 guys?

    Here is a link to the latest about it:

    Adam Lambert fallout begins, but album soars - Yahoo! News

    And what Adam has to say.

    He told Rolling Stone magazine that his act was no different from erotically-charged music videos and stage shows by female singers like Madonna and Lady GaGa "but the minute a man does it, everybody freaks out".
    I have to agree

    Good luck finding the video online.


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    Here's a link that still works...for now...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulhy_8wmrvM]YouTube - Adam Lambert AMA Performance HD[/ame]
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      Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

      Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
      Already Good Morning America has cancelled his concert because of this. IMO, this is 100% discrimination. So he kissed a guy. Uhm, Madonna, Brittney and Christina were making out YEARS ago and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.
      Actually, a lot of people did have a problem with Madonna and Britney Spears locking lips in that 2003 show. It generated a storm of controversy. Of course, it wasn't quite as raunchy as Lambert's performance. There were no faces being shoved into crotches, as far as I can recall, in the Madonna act.

      But you are right that part of the reason the reaction is harsher is because it was gay men, as opposed to straight women pretending to be lesbians. The public, as a whole, is more quickly turned off by gay men getting raunchy than it is by hot lesbians (even more so with hot faux lesbians) getting raunchy, and the entertainment business blatantly discriminates on the basis of what people will and will not want to watch. Lambert alienated a lot of valuable viewers by pushing the envelope. The result will probably be a smaller, but more devoted following. That's not a formula for all venues.
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      • #4
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        I wonder if he was straight if there would be such controversy.

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        • #5
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          If he ditched those stupid ear rings and the eye makeup and rooster hair gel set, well it would have gone over better on me.

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          • #6
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            Being gay myself, I thought that performance was horrible! I mean come on, show some class. I get your gay and all, but do you really have to shove it into our faces(literally lol). I didn't even know it was a dude he kissed until I read comments LOL. I thought it was a woman! But still that performance was just BAD BAD BAD! I was very tempted to just turn it off cause my ears were on the verge of bleeding! Nice try, but no, just no.

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              For the record, I didn't care for the song or the performance. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to do it.

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              • #8
                Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
                For the record, I didn't care for the song or the performance. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to do it.
                I also don't think he should be discriminated either. I think it's very hypocritical myself, I just didn't care for the performace either. Maybe I'd be more passionate about defending him if he actually gave a good performance, but it was just too bad for people to ignore the fact that kissed a man and now everyone's going crazy over it. Why is it ok if girls do it? But when guys do it, all hell breaks loose!

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                  I feel as an artisit should have the freedom to display their art in any way, however I feel that there was no artistic merit in Lambert's performance. I felt that he was being vulgar for the sake of being vulgar. He has a great voice and he needed to display that more, rather then all these theatrics. I understand he's trying to establish himself as a performer, but he could have went about it better.
                  Last edited by Indiana_James; 11-26-2009, 02:15 PM.

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                    Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                    Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
                    I wonder if he showed talent if there would be such controversy.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                      I found the the performance no more vulgar than what we've seen from Madonna, Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears during live award shows.

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                      • #12
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                        I couldn't tell whether that was a guy or a girl he kissed. But either way I don't care.

                        I am not the biggest Adam Lambert fan anyway. It doesn't matter if it is hard rock or a ballad. The way he sings it, it all sounds the same anyways.

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                        • #13
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                          Where's the outrage over Adam grabbing the female pole dancers crotch?

                          The performance was pretty good, overall. And I'm not even a glam rock fan. Although there were a couple parts of his perfomance that needed to be a little more convincing/rehearsal, but I see the direction he was trying to going, and he pretty much pulled it off. I'd be interested in knowing who did the choreography for that little number, and just how much of an influence Adam had in it.

                          Haven't seen much of him sing, as I really don't watch American Idol, so it's difficult form an opinion based on just one song. Certainly many people were expecting him to be "sweet", so he just made the lyrics come to life with performance. And who really DOESN'T expect a few surprises like this, especially with a music awards program.

                          The look of part of it reminded me of Cabaret, and just how many decades old is that now? What's more surprising to me, is HOW surprised all the reactions to this are and for it to be such a big news story! For that alone, Adam did his job at the American Music Awards.
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                            I think this performance was all planned out by Adam.
                            It was just a performance to get his 15 minutes of fame back.
                            I don't see anything wrong with a man kissing another man.
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                              Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                              Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
                              So he kissed a guy. Uhm, Madonna, Brittney and Christina were making out YEARS ago and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.
                              Either way, I don't really give a hoot. Madonna had Britney and Christina. Maybe Adam could've made it work if he had Boy George and George Michael up on stage with him? :blink:

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                              • #16
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                                The only thing that I would see as inappropriate would be THAT thing they edited out for the west coast feed of the show. (If you don't know, google it.)



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                                  I think this illustrates just how pathetically contrived big music is.

                                  Lets not focus on performance.. lets focus on shock and awe.
                                  Lets not focus on talent... lets focus on news-making
                                  Whose the next big thing? Whoever we make

                                  I found the entire thing painful to watch and boring as all hell.

                                  The only controversy as far as I'm concerned is exactly what they wanted.

                                  'Hi.. look at me!!! (jump up and down)'

                                  I would have kicked him off the show because his song sucked and wouldn't want to make my viewers tune out.

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                                    My take on it is this...

                                    was it shocking?... yes... was it necessary?... no...

                                    I really do not care if it was two guys, or two girls, I was a bit shocked that they had men prancing around in 2 routines dressed like an SM Club (J-lo's little number wasn't any better then Adam's). What's worse... it was prime time tv, not cable, not a concert someone paid for... this was on regular tv.

                                    I also didn't appreciate the decision to edit out content for the West Coast. What... no one's ever heard of a time delay so they can't edit East Coast but ooooohhhh we need to make sure West Coast doesn't see it? If someone does something stupid and the network isn't smart enough to edit the content to begin with... why edit after the fact? Post a warning, package it up and send it on it's way. It's not like the FCC will think you are any more responsible for editing after the fact.

                                    Some things are edited for a reason, offensive material, but J-Lo landing on her backside... why was that edited? So she wasn't embarrassed? Just like when Ashley Simpson was caught lip-syncing... Hey let's edit the West Coast so she doesn't get caught by them... ridiculous... as if no one knows what the internet is...

                                    If two men want to kiss, or two women want to kiss... go for it. By all means I see nothing wrong with showing affection for the one you love. I draw the line when individuals are prancing around in sexual costumes mimicking sexual motions on national tv. This goes for men or women. This is why we have cable, this is why we have concerts, so those who want a more "adult" venue can enjoy it and there is less potential for kids to be influenced. I'm sorry but there are some things kids shouldn't see on prime time tv. Bad parenting, those who don't care and would let their kids watch regardless of content, is a whole tangent on this topic.

                                    I also agree that shock entertainment is really getting annoying. Someone either has talent or doesn't have talent. Shocking the audience will not make up for a lack of talent. It was a music awards show, music, which implies he should be able to hold a note...

                                    ... I think the doorman screwed up. Kanye West was supposed to be sitting in the front row so he could go up and take Adam's mic!
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Adam Lambert AMA performance Controversey

                                      The performance didn't bother me. And yes, women HAVE been doing this for years. Remember Paula Abdul's Cold Hearted Snake? BTW, this performance was either an homage or a ripoff of that video, depending on how you look at it. It was on at night in the type of show that has gotten to have a rep for "surprises" (think Janet Jackson in the VMA awards). I think all the only-half-bleeped-out swearing on TV and the horridly frightening ads for gore films shown regularly during the day and weekend at times children are watching bothers me more.

                                      The song was boring, though.
                                      This man was obviously born for musical theater.
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                                      • #20
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                                        How DARE he refer to himself and Lady Gaga in the same sentence.

                                        I too am gay, but I would never want that performance to represent me.

                                        Song was horrible.

                                        Choreography non existant (I believe it was just flexing weird positions of the body, yes?)

                                        Kiss was UNECESSARY and immature.

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