Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

[A113]

Whatever happened to the real Disney Channel and Toon Disney? You may be asking me, "What are you talking about, we already have Disney XD and Disney Channel." But I'm not talking about Hannah Montana, The Jonas Brothers, The Suite Life, Aaron Stone, or any of that crap. If you're one of the younger MCers on the site, and grew up watching this or do not know what I'm talking about, let me elaborate.

I'm talking about stuff like this:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWR414laRY8"]YouTube- Imagineer That Video #1[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hr5GCgbYms"]YouTube- Walt Disney Imagineering[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edofl2MH98I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edofl2MH98I[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NzzzcOWPH0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NzzzcOWPH0[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiVXYs6VLWw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiVXYs6VLWw[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbTzSQdn1k"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcbTzSQdn1k[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoFinwA9E8A"]YouTube- Even Stevens Intro[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkmaE_QWMQ"]YouTube- Rolie Polie Olie Theme Song[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E-rJu0sRAM"]YouTube- Out Of The Box Theme[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Vov8G_yFk"]YouTube- P B & J Otter Theme Song[/ame]
And this

I may be just reminiscing, but this brings up an important discussion IMO.
Back in the late 90's and early 2000s, I always woke up to turn on the TV to Disney as I'd usually do and I'd be watching one of these shows (there are many more, I just selected a few examples). The videos and images above are in no particular order, but they range from Toon Disney, Zoog Disney, Disney Channel, Playhouse Disney, and one in particular was the classic "Imagineer That!" short serial aired during commercials, most similar to the modern As the Bell Rings, Disney 365, or get_connected. This was personally my favorite thing to watch ever, and I unfortunately have a very vague memory of it, but there are luckily 3-4 on YouTube to spare.

It may be just me, but as the years went by the originality and creativity of the television programming gradually started to lack and become dull and uninteresting. To me there was a great appeal to the viewer back then and it appealed to me even as I grew older. But now it appears with Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers (MCers who are fans of these bands, skip this paragraph as I'm going to rant a bit), it's really corny and not great for Disney's image.

Also, is it just me, or is it that nowadays that Disney Television appeals more commonly to girls than boys? Sure we have Disney XD for Sports, but is Disney implying that Disney Channel is a television channels for girls more than boys? I remember when I used to watch it it appealed to both sexes equally, rather than just one.

I'm not completely bashing the Disney Channel from today, but there are a couple good things reminiscent of the old DC. To me, Phineas and Ferb is one of them (but obviously more modernized).

I may just be throwing out random rants and scattered opinions, but I just noticed there really is one other thread of this on a different site with the last post from 2006. I thought it would be a good idea to bring this up now in today's world of televising Disney, but I am really curious on what you think of Disney's transition within the past decade.

Discuss.

[Aladdin]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

In the mid 90's it was scaled WAY back, about the same time that the Disney Afternoon disappeared. (hmmm, that was about the same time that Frank Wells passed away) In the early 90's WB was also pumping out the new Toon's, too! Even Nickelodian had a few.

These days, WB animation is nowhere to be seen. Nickelodian still has a few animated shows with the main star being SpongeBob, with backups of Fairy Oddparents and Jimmy Neutron, and trying to catch a wave are the Penguins of Madagascar, and they do try some new toons from time to time. Cartoon Network is just plain pathetic.

As for Disney, they haven't given up on the half hour toons completely, and at least they are trying something new every once in a while, most recently with Phineas and Ferb, but they have also had Kim Possible, and some of the movie inspired series Emperors New Groove/School, Tarzan, Lilo and Stitch, and a unique "House of Mouse."

But there area unfortunately, a plethora of painful toons that Disney attempted with Buzz Lightyear, Brandy and Mr Whiskers , Dave the Barbarian, Teamo Supremo .

Playhouse Disney has refreshed on a fairly regular basis is the morning preschool line up from Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Little Einsteins, multiple Pooh attempts, Handy Manny etc. It's just sad that the toons on Playhouse Disney are just lame.

So Toons have gone extinct, so much as the quality of their toon's has deteriorated, and the real hits are few.

[A113]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Totally true. The least Disney can do in the least is put most of the OTHER shows on DVD that haven't been already (Most specifically, House of Mouse ). I noticed that in the past few years before Disney XD that the original cartoons were still aired, but at midnight and late at night when nobody nationwide (most particularly, kids) are awake to watch.

[aimster]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

This is the Disney Channel *I* remember as a kid:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fYCnZB_X7M]YouTube - Welcome to Pooh Corner[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTsYy0vm8Ys]YouTube - Mousercise[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=attoEWTbhrs]YouTube - Dumbo's Circus opening[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwolotioyTw]YouTube - DTV - Bobby Lewis - Tossin' and Turnin'[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sDNmu7Tawc]YouTube - Retro Disney Channel Opening[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LnWAjUON8]YouTube - Disney Channel Opening From 1983[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfCx5UBY84]YouTube - Disney Channel 1983 sign-off[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWXOCORzpxg]YouTube - Original Disney Channel Ident[/ame]

[dmtnt55]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Disney XD replaced Toon Disney, not that it was already much different. But I loved Toon Disney, and even some old Disney Channel stuff. Too bad it's all gone now.

[aimster]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

They need a Disney Channel Classic channel. Show all that old programming from the 80's and early 90's.

Hey it works for ESPN and VH1!

[stitchon]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Who needs quality programming when you can make a quick buck off of some no-talent hacks attempting to sing and dance?

Remember, the same person responsible for the channel is now the head of Walt Disney Pictures.

[sailerm]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Gee Aimster... you're old ~

[Crazy Larry]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

The show that I miss the most is Vault Disney.

[aimster]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Gee Aimster... you're old ~

Gee, thanks.

I remember when Disney Channel was a pay channel. I also remember when Nickelodeon was a pay channel.

[aimster]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Oh don't forget these gems from the old-school Disney Channel days...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loAtfAIQ7k4]YouTube - Donald Duck Presents (title sequence)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APTOz1PwUcY]YouTube - Good Morning, Mickey- Vintage Disney Channel[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWjLjPqwtk8]YouTube - Adventures In Wonderland Intro[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klb9gtEOc4U]YouTube - Disney Channel Vintage Bumper (Donald Duck - Montage)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA6JZ31vL4s]YouTube - Mousterpiece Theatre intro- Vintage Disney Channel[/ame]

[sailerm]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Don't worry Aimster, I too remember when Disney was a pay service.

[dead_Mau5]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Ah yes, the ye old 90's toons of years gone past, what tearful memories they played out.

I was a mega fan of Gargoyles,DuckTales,Goof Troop and Aladdin:The Animated Series(featuring the only good use of Iago). I actually feel sorry for you,aimstar.
The best that infant Disney television could provide to you was tired pedophiles in sweaty and badly made costumes.What a shame, yet what great memories!

[Zorro825]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

I miss Vault Disney more than anything else. I used to stay up late just to watch "Walt Disney Presents" and I would get all happy whenever it was an old show about Disneyland or Disney World.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNOSg9iHghQ"]YouTube - Vault Disney Intro[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upRNAJCyOAw"]YouTube- Vault Disney logo[/ame]

[AmbuhVee]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

I grew up with 90's Disney, but I do remember during summertime, at 10 pm they showed the old Mickey Mouse Club episodes. My Mom let me stay up that late because she watched them with me. They were awesome. :]

[disneyjedi1]

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Cartoon Network is just plain pathetic.

I agree. A couple months ago when I'd go to the movie theater they'd always show commercials for how it was going REAL or whatever.... FAIL CARTOON Network. FAIL! That is the stupidest move ever.... that defeats the whole purpose of the channel: TO SHOW CARTOONS!!! It was named CARTOON Network for a reason. :bang:

But there area unfortunately, a plethora of painful toons that Disney attempted with Buzz Lightyear, Brandy and Mr Whiskers , Dave the Barbarian, Teamo Supremo .

:rant: BUZZ IS NOT PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :argue: How in the world could you compare Buzz to those aweful shows! That's what's painful to me! Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is hilarious! And some of those jokes I'm still wondering how they made it past the censors. XD I know it's all based on a person's opinion, but I actually like Buzz better than Kim Possible, and I love KP.

but then again I do have a track record with liking things that a lot of people consider "bad"... Black Cauldron, Treasure Planet (my FAVORITE MOVIE OF ALL TIME... it's it's 7th anniversary today! :love: ), TRON (I've been told many times that it's bad.... I highly disagree... but generally the people I've talked to say that there's like no plot... when it's not that hard to find... :P )



Okay.... haha :sweat: I think that my rant is over... sorry about that...

I really agree with the idea of having another Disney channel for people like us. The Disney Fans. I've often thought about this. I think that the channel would play all the cartoons and shows we grew up with. And I'd love to see programs about the Parks. I'd think it should also play some of the older Disney movies. That would be an awesome channel. XD

[Retrocool]

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I'm older than aimster. I remember when there was no Disney Channel at all. Just theatrical movies, The Wonderful World of Disney on NBC, reruns of the original Mickey Mouse Club in syndication, and then the New Mickey Mouse Club, also in syndication. If you wanted a Disney fix, you had to seek it out.

I agree (again), we need (NEED, DISNEY, YA PAYING ATTENTION OVER HERE?) a Disney Classics Channel. Just the other night I was able to enjoy 3 Disney classics back-to-back on Turner Classic Movies (well, I came home just as Son of Flubber was starting, and fell asleep during The Shaggy D.A., but still). Ahhh, what a delight it was to be transported back to my youth. Why is TCM (owned by Warner Bros.) showing Disney movies? Disney should be showing Disney movies, shouldn't they? I don't care what the arguments are - if Disney cares so damn much about its brand, then they need to maximize the profit potential of that brand by starting up a Disney Classics Channel so all us old fogies can enjoy what the young whippersnappers don't!

And now, I shall go take some Geritol.

[A113]

Re: Whatever happned to Disney Broadcasting?

Hmm, a disney channel to archive original programming. That would be appreciative. As a side note, do they still have Boomerang? Those were also some other non-disney cartoon shows I used to watch, some really good ones they had back then.