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  • Go, comcast, go!!!

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-entertainment

    Oh, be *my* superheroes tonight.

    “If Comcast won these assets from the arms of Disney, it would be a devastating blow to Iger,” Daniel Ives, an analyst at GBH Insights, said in a note.”
    Last edited by Blue Lagoon; 05-23-2018, 09:37 AM.

  • #2
    Anyone routing for Comcast, either has never dealt with them or is just ignorant to the fake Disney takes care of the properties they buy


    Happy Halloween!!!

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    • #3
      I'm no fan of Comcast, but I think this would be good. I would prefer Disney to concentrate on "Disney" and give up this notion of acquisitions in order to move the Company along on autopilot. Honestly, ever since Disney started building their empire via IPs and acquisitions/mergers, the creativity has diminished.

      Sure it will put them in a financial disadvantage, but I think that's what Disney needs. A little motivation to step things up and stop resting on their laurels. Maybe this will shake things up.

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      • #4
        Not good news for fans of Marvel if comcast does this. No xmen or fantastic 4 crossovers into the existing MCU or into the parks if this happens.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stovk View Post
          ...I would prefer Disney to concentrate on "Disney" and give up this notion of acquisitions in order to move the Company along on autopilot...

          ...Sure it will put them in a financial disadvantage, but I think that's what Disney needs....
          Wait, what? Disney should stop being a business, stop adding products with an established fanbase to their library, and willingly stop making money so they can rev their engines again? That is insane. They have something that is resonating with today's market, and they have the returns to show for it. They are not the company of the past and should not cause an uproar with their stockholders just to appease purists.

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          • #6
            This has nothing to do with Disneyland, mods please move or delete.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TronLives View Post
              This has nothing to do with Disneyland...
              Neither does Marvel...(just kidding. Had to throw that in there)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by stovk View Post

                Neither does Marvel...(just kidding. Had to throw that in there)
                Marvel is owned by Disney and has character meet ups in the Disneyland resort therefore that "joke" in invalid.

                Funny though lol.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TronLives View Post

                  Marvel is owned by Disney and has character meet ups in the Disneyland resort therefore that "joke" in invalid.

                  Funny though lol.
                  Marvel is owned by Disney and this purchase directly affects character meet ups in the Disneyland resort.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UltimateSurvivor View Post

                    Wait, what? Disney should stop being a business, stop adding products with an established fanbase to their library, and willingly stop making money so they can rev their engines again? That is insane. They have something that is resonating with today's market, and they have the returns to show for it. They are not the company of the past and should not cause an uproar with their stockholders just to appease purists.
                    Porn is a huge money maker and is becoming more accepted by the current "market". Should Disney include that in their "Theme"?

                    Marijuana is becoming more prevalent throughout society now. Should Disney have marijuana dispensaries in their Theme Parks?

                    I am not being flippant. Disney has a history and an identity. Just because there is a "market" for something does not mean it should be acquired for the sake of being a "business", just as I wouldn't expect Starbucks to start selling Electric Cars.

                    You call me a "purist" as if it is a four letter word. Well as a Disney Stockholder, I sure hope I am a purist. If all you are concerned with is "making money" and building the business via acquisitions, then eventually Disney will be in name only and it will be watered down as just another amusement park.

                    I thought Disney was more than that...silly me.

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                    • #11
                      I'm trying to see the bigger picture, and as a Disney stockholder I would prefer that Disney move forward with their acquisition of Fox and Sky. The other major content creators (Warners and Universal) are all merged or attempting to merge with content delivery (AT&T and Comcast, respectively). In a world in which net neutrality no longer exists, I think Disney is right to shore up its content to compete with the other majors. Having the most sought-after catalog would make it hard for ISPs to throttle the content without facing consequences. Indeed, throttling Disney's streaming service once it launches would already be a bad idea, but it would be even worse with the expanded content library from Fox.

                      If Comcast is able to purchase Fox, I'm afraid Disney would suffer greatly in the area of direct-to-consumer content delivery. We could then perhaps see a future where another ISP (Verizon? although they have their own share of problems) might have to merge with Disney in order to preserve its dominance in the new media landscape. The last thing I would want would be for Disney to face another hostile takeover attempt because their content isn't strong enough to compete in emerging areas of the industry. For those reasons, I think I would rather Disney own the content than the distribution channel and therefore continue its pursuit of Fox.

                      No matter how you slice it, there's no version of the future where the Disney we knew from long ago survives without another major change. It's just a matter of what you want that change to look like.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WaltDisney'sAlec View Post
                        I'm trying to see the bigger picture, and as a Disney stockholder I would prefer that Disney move forward with their acquisition of Fox and Sky. The other major content creators (Warners and Universal) are all merged or attempting to merge with content delivery (AT&T and Comcast, respectively). In a world in which net neutrality no longer exists, I think Disney is right to shore up its content to compete with the other majors. Having the most sought-after catalog would make it hard for ISPs to throttle the content without facing consequences. Indeed, throttling Disney's streaming service once it launches would already be a bad idea, but it would be even worse with the expanded content library from Fox.

                        If Comcast is able to purchase Fox, I'm afraid Disney would suffer greatly in the area of direct-to-consumer content delivery. We could then perhaps see a future where another ISP (Verizon? although they have their own share of problems) might have to merge with Disney in order to preserve its dominance in the new media landscape. The last thing I would want would be for Disney to face another hostile takeover attempt because their content isn't strong enough to compete in emerging areas of the industry. For those reasons, I think I would rather Disney own the content than the distribution channel and therefore continue its pursuit of Fox.

                        No matter how you slice it, there's no version of the future where the Disney we knew from long ago survives without another major change. It's just a matter of what you want that change to look like.
                        Agreed

                        I hope Disney fights back, Its funny I didn't want this that bad but the minute I hear Comcast wants it I want Disney to be the only one to have them.


                        Disney may play it safe but they will treat Fox pictures much better than Comcast
                        Happy Halloween!!!

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                        • #13
                          I totally agree. Disney needs to get back the formula the produced Disney classics like Pinocchio, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland, Mary Poppins, and The Jungle Book.

                          It's very easy -- secure the rights to popular works of fiction, create unique interpretation of those characters brought to life through world-class Disney storytelling and state-of-the-art movie making ability, and then leverage the popularity of the movie and extend the franchise's reach in the theme parks with attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experience all while selling merchandise to fans.

                          I personally find it disgusting how Disney acquired the rights to popular Marvel comic book characters, made movies loosely based off their storylines but obviously improved to give the characters a broader appeal, used their investment in CGI technology to make spectacular movie going experiences, and then had the nerve to try to satisfy the demands of fans of those franchises by building attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experiences in Disney Parks all around the world. And don't even get me going on all the merchandising. Disgusting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stovk View Post

                            I am not being flippant. Disney has a history and an identity. Just because there is a "market" for something does not mean it should be acquired for the sake of being a "business", just as I wouldn't expect Starbucks to start selling Electric Cars.
                            You are correct a company should not go after something just because they can, that can have a very negative impact. However, that is really a nonsensical argument. Disney isn't trying to by Tesla, they aren't going to start selling Mickey and Minnie's "special brownies". They are a media entertainment company going after another media entertainment company. And no, they aren't going to go into the adult film industry.

                            As for the "purist". I guess it really depends on how "pure" a person is. Would a "purist" prefer Disney never acquire anything? Would they sell off LucasFilm, Marvel, and the Muppets. What about Marry Poppins or Winnie the Pooh? What is the dividing line between acceptable and unacceptable?

                            If so then the question becomes what would you have as a company? Would you have the company of today that is out there trying to acquire other properties, or would Disney now be the company that is the target of these acquisitions. Where you no longer walk into Disneyland but Foxland? Would bigger corporations have the same respect for Disney and say Oh we can't acquire that because it was Walt's company? What company wouldn't want to get it's hands on some of the Disney Classics if they could.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TronLives View Post
                              This has nothing to do with Disneyland, mods please move or delete.
                              It actually has fairly strong implications to the theme park industry. Should Disney manage to purchase all of these IPs then they can start to implement them into the parks and begin squeezing them out of the competition. The deal as it stood would have been one of the worst for the creative industry in history. Yes yes, go Marvel it can now have X-Men, but outside of that a single company owning so many established IPs leads to rot. Moreover, it would give Disney the ability to squelch other theme parks leading to a lack of competition and therefore quality. No ever growing Universal Studios in Florida? Almost certainly no massive expansions to Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom, and the like. Hate Comcast all you want, they are no saint, but at least it prevents Disney from becoming a creative behemoth.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by tommybaseball View Post
                                i totally agree. Disney needs to get back the formula the produced disney classics like pinocchio, dumbo, alice in wonderland, mary poppins, and the jungle book.

                                It's very easy -- secure the rights to popular works of fiction, create unique interpretation of those characters brought to life through world-class disney storytelling and state-of-the-art movie making ability, and then leverage the popularity of the movie and extend the franchise's reach in the theme parks with attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experience all while selling merchandise to fans.

                                I personally find it disgusting how disney acquired the rights to popular marvel comic book characters, made movies loosely based off their storylines but obviously improved to give the characters a broader appeal, used their investment in cgi technology to make spectacular movie going experiences, and then had the nerve to try to satisfy the demands of fans of those franchises by building attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experiences in disney parks all around the world. And don't even get me going on all the merchandising. Disgusting.
                                bravo sir!!!

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by TommyBaseball View Post
                                  I totally agree. Disney needs to get back the formula the produced Disney classics like Pinocchio, Dumbo, Alice in Wonderland, Mary Poppins, and The Jungle Book.

                                  It's very easy -- secure the rights to popular works of fiction, create unique interpretation of those characters brought to life through world-class Disney storytelling and state-of-the-art movie making ability, and then leverage the popularity of the movie and extend the franchise's reach in the theme parks with attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experience all while selling merchandise to fans.

                                  I personally find it disgusting how Disney acquired the rights to popular Marvel comic book characters, made movies loosely based off their storylines but obviously improved to give the characters a broader appeal, used their investment in CGI technology to make spectacular movie going experiences, and then had the nerve to try to satisfy the demands of fans of those franchises by building attractions, character meet and greets, nighttime spectaculars, and other themed experiences in Disney Parks all around the world. And don't even get me going on all the merchandising. Disgusting.
                                  Big BIG difference between the situation of Snow White or Pinnochio, or even Mary Poppins, and Marvel crap. And also, not everything in Disneyland needs to be based on some IP bull$#!¥.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by DLMountainFan View Post
                                    You are correct a company should not go after something just because they can, that can have a very negative impact. However, that is really a nonsensical argument. Disney isn't trying to by Tesla, they aren't going to start selling Mickey and Minnie's "special brownies". They are a media entertainment company going after another media entertainment company. And no, they aren't going to go into the adult film industry.

                                    As for the "purist". I guess it really depends on how "pure" a person is. Would a "purist" prefer Disney never acquire anything? Would they sell off LucasFilm, Marvel, and the Muppets. What about Marry Poppins or Winnie the Pooh? What is the dividing line between acceptable and unacceptable?

                                    If so then the question becomes what would you have as a company? Would you have the company of today that is out there trying to acquire other properties, or would Disney now be the company that is the target of these acquisitions. Where you no longer walk into Disneyland but Foxland? Would bigger corporations have the same respect for Disney and say Oh we can't acquire that because it was Walt's company? What company wouldn't want to get it's hands on some of the Disney Classics if they could.
                                    Foxland? But Disneyland is ALREADY practically Pixar/Star Wars land. What’s the difference? Disney doesn’t need another company to destroy them. Disney does an AMAZING job of destroying Walt Disney themselves.

                                    *Cough* Pixar Pier *Cough*.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Blue Lagoon View Post

                                      Big BIG difference between the situation of Snow White or Pinnochio, or even Mary Poppins, and Marvel crap. And also, not everything in Disneyland needs to be based on some IP bull$#!¥.
                                      And what exactly are the differences?

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by TommyBaseball View Post

                                        And what exactly are the differences?
                                        See the thread about ”Are Marvel Characters Disney?”

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